Autodelta airfilter and a remap.

Stutter free, smooth in-traffic driving, slightly better fuel consumption
and slightly more spritely fast-getaways.

 

Hiya Nev! How's your Autodelta air filter working out? How much does it cost? Do they do a package with remap?

 

It's a separate piece.


The filter did give slightly better low rev response
but not as much as when I later coupled it with their remap,
which makes the car a real joy to drive around town.

Watch out for the filter fitting. No idea where it goes.
(Had to get the dealer to fit it.)

 

Hi CF. Moved to tuning. I am interested in the AD map but am in discussions with ARUK over it. There'll be specific instructions for you 2.2's to follow very soon

Threads merged & tidied too

 

Thanks SR!

Good effort with ARUK. Do any of you know if changing the Air Filter affects the warranty? I think Nev is still in warranty so guessing it's a no?

 

I have just ordered one for my 2.0 from Autodelta. Hopefully should arrive any day so I'll let you know (getting Lewis at Alfatecnico to fit it). The website says about 4-5 extra bhp with improved throttle response. If it's anything like the BMC one I had in my 147 then I'm sure that's correct. I shall also be getting a re-map done asap

As for warranty I phoned Mangos and asked them if an Autodelta re-map will affect my warranty and they said not at all. Never mentioned the air filter but I should imagine that'll be fine if a re-map is ok

I think the JTS engine definitely needs something doing to it. Will also buy a Ragazzon exhaust or it at some point. Worth squeezing it for what I can. If all this fails then it's definitely a GTA for me :lol:

G5een is getting his GT JTS re-mapped next week so is going to let me know the difference once done. I look forward to finding out all about it. I'll post up on here when I've heard

 

G5een is getting his GT JTS re-mapped next week so is going to let me know the difference once done. I look forward to finding out all about it. I'll post up on here when I've heard

YEs please Graham, I'd love to know more. Everyone else, please let me know how your air filter/intake and remapping experiences have been. Are there big gains to be had from changing the exhaust, and is that something you should only bother with after osrting the intake/induction?

 

I will let you know about the Autodelta air intake the day it's on my motor...which I'm hoping is this week, if not it will have to be when I get back from my hols

I think I'm going to Red Dot for the re-map though as they come in quite a bit cheaper than Autodelta and I won't have to (quite) go into London

 

Yeah I was thining about going up to Red dot (which is actually further for me) as their remaps are cheaper, and Joe (OA) is sorting that rolling road and remap day.

 

Go for it. This time next week you will have a faster and smoother 2.2 JTS

I would be there too but I'm off on my hols next Saturday

 

Do you have any contact details for Red dot?

Thanks...

 

Red Dot - ODB Tuning - Rolling Road - Performance Brakes

 

If the air filter makes any difference at all, then it should be fitted prior to the remap. You want the remap optimised for your engines state of tune, and if the mixture was weak at the top end due to more air from the filter, the remap should sort this (if it is rolling road tuning).

 

Thanks Ally. Well that makes sense, thank you. So it seems that the benefits of an air filter are more about noise rather than power perhaps? I'm talking about naturally aspirated engines like the JTS. Maybe I'd be better off just getting the remap without an air filter which might increase the noise (I don't want to increase the noise) - any opinions?

 

This has got me thinking though, I do have the K&N out of the 156 JTS in my garage but I'm not sure if the two intakes are the same. I'm tempted (if they are the same) to put the K&N in the GT prior to the re-map.

But, I'm not sure if were all just falling for the marketing when it comes to these air filters, after all, it seemed to make no difference to the 156.

 

You JTS will probably be up to factory BHP after the remap.

Mine was down 10 on standard and the week before he had done a JTS which was down 15 on standard - all brand new.

Still gains are all relative & worth doing.

 

So I believe, they say they just put back whats supposed to be there I know the early models had some major problems.

Seems to go better than my 156 though. I'm sure I'll notice the extra umphh.

 

I'd be more eager to fix the 2.2's dodgy
low rev problems than any real world
power/consumption gains.

Personally the small increase in power and upped
rev limiter are minor wrt every day driving
compared with continually having to dip the clutch
in low speed traffic.


Anything else is a bonus.

 

I'm sure I'll notice the extra umphh. [/QUOTE]

I noticed mine Problem is I want more now

 

I'm sure I'll notice the extra umphh.

I noticed mine Problem is I want more now[/QUOTE]

:lol: :lol:

That's what I'm scared of, MORE MORE!!!!

Did you have a JTS then???

 

All the more reason to give it a tough time!!

Unforuntantly I got the 1.8TS cloverleaf - mine was 130 on the rolling road down 10 on standard. Still after the map is was back to 147 and I've got the graphs to prove it.

Having owned a JTS I can say it's a reasonably quick car anyway so maybee a map will be enough?

 

Will be watching CF's Red Dot experience with great interest as Joe wanted me to get my 2.2 down there as a trial car.

 

That's the trouble with being a guinea pig, you don't know exactly what to expect. In a nutshell, an induction kit is really engineered to flow more efficiently at high engine speeds and throttle loads. This is how they claim to make more power. Some applications see more improvements than others. However, they will almost invariably have inferior flow characteristics at part throttle or low enigne speeds compared to the original induction system. Perhaps that is not a good thing with the 2.2JTS, and Nev's plain speaking is the best advice here.

 

Interesting stuff Ally! Definitely something to think about.

I am a bit nervous about my car being the guinea pig for testing, though it is well run in (almost 11,000 miles).

Also, I suppose each car (of the same model) is slightly different, and if the map is developed on my own car, is it likely to be better for my car than a map developed on someone elses car?

 

Just had the Autodelta air intake fitted. Don't worry it hasn't created any extra noise that I noticed. It has improved the throttle response though low down. Haven't had the chance for a blast on the motorway yet so not sure about at higher revs in higher gears. I think it's definitely worth doing with a re-map as any extra bhp you can get will be a bonus. The two surely compliment each other?

 

Part two

Have been on a high speed blast now and the air intake has definitely made a difference at such speeds. I know the figures only say 4-5 extra bhp but it seems to have improved the throttle response quite well considering

 

Thanks very much for the info Graham! Glad you are pleased! Are you going for a remap and who with? Autodelta have already done the 2.2 but they are very expensive. Red Dot are just waiting for someone to bring them a 2.2 to work out a map with. They do know how to get a new map in (not straight forward on the JTS engines) and are doing a 3.2 this week I think.

 

I'm really tempted to open my airbox up and see if the K&N will fit, looks like a mission on the GT though.

Decision decisions.

Still not convinced it will make any difference, but then maybe with a re-map????

Then there's warranty..........

 

Then there's warranty..........

Speak to the dealer. I can't see it making a difference to be honest

 

Cone filters are great for throttle response, but you can improve throttle response and lose power/torque at the same time if its suffering from heat soak. Make sure whatever you do you sheild your filter of choice from hot air in the engine bay.

 

Hey guys, I know the pollen filter gets changed at services, but do they ever change the air filter? I don't think so, but if they did, this could present a problem at service time! Anyone know for sure?

 

They didn't mine. Even if they do, just tell them not to.

 

I'd want a rolling Road proven map. A fiend has an early 2.2 Brera that has been AD mapped and Jano has called him back for a free revised map update. He's also had some cutsom back boxes made that make it sound like a V6:wow:

 

Absolutely, I'd want to see the graphs to prove it!

I've got to say, now my 2.2 is run in, the exhaust sounds really meaty - much, much meatier than my GTV 2.0.