Let's face it, to detect a difference between the two, assuming both are as good as factory, you have to be pretty much on the limit.

Being as there aren't many tight bends on the A38 and M1, I doubt if i'll notice anything apart from the V6 growl and torque

 

I notice the difference between mine doing the same route every day, but again it is all down to how they are set up. The weight issue can be dialled out with decent suspension to a greater degree but I think you probably have to summise that both cars have different characteristics and that's that. I enjoy hooning around in both equally and won't be parting with either. I must say that it took a few days of driving the twinnie to get used to putting my foot down and not a lot happening but now it actually feels quite normal after using the V6 most of the summer.

 

It would be great if a v6 went up again a ts on a track, it would be a very interesting race, even on a drag slip (of course the v6 would win in a straight line) but it would be interesting to see by how much

 

Hi Jon, on You Tube search GTV V6 vs. F355 - few mods on the Alfa, but very closely matched until the Fezza gets it eye in. TS doesn't really have the torque for it on the straight. My 156TS was very quick, but totally out gunned on the straight when I was chasing a V6 GTV. Be interesting though

 

No chance against a 355. I've seen that clip and bloke driving the Fezza must have been sleeping. A Busso may sound good and be quick but a 355 is in another league. It also has electronic dampers that firms things up for harder track work so I'm not sure, driven correctly a V6 would see anything other than a set of tail pipes on a track.

 

Clarkson in a book says the GTV is one rung down from a 355.

 

hi, dont hesitate, go for a spider v6 and keep the gtv, the best of two worlds at a bargain price.....by the way, can somebody explain to me how to put a picture of my car in the profile, thanks

 

Aside from a huge price difference and 1.3-1.5 litres of engine capacity, there is also the matter of 160bhp between a 3.0 Gtv and an F355

 

My coupe if it helps

My coupe is nearly finished. Just needs some trim repainting, badges sticking on and a new mot.

 

My coupe is nearly finished. Just needs some trim repainting, badges sticking on and a new mot.

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Looking good I forgot you had that beast.

Still on the hunt for a variator mate. I'll let you know as soon as I get it.

 

That Coupe looks great. Thank you for sharing.

I'm not sure what to make about ths handling debate? Didn't we have someone here peddling their black GTV V6 as featured in a Clarkson video? Wasn't it going straight on?

Look at the four way CAR Magazine Giant Test, was it the Coupe, 406 V6 Coupe, Ford Cougar V6 and the GTV V6? Did the GTV come last?

I lust a GTV V6. I think they passed me by at the time as I was always more taken with the Fiat Coupe and I still am. I think the GTV V6 is very desireable but I wouldn't be looking to get one expecting the be all and end all when it comes to handling. I don't think that's what a GTV V6 is about.

 

Now a Gtv with 5 pot turbo....pants accident

 

On stock suspension they are a bit of a handful but throw a bit of coin at them with extreme precision and they are a joy to throw around

 

I've already mooted a Busso powered Fiat Coupe. Symon said no point. Someone here has a Fiat Coupe 16V Turbo in a GTV.

 

I've already mooted a Busso powered Fiat Coupe. Symon said not point. Someone here has a Fiat Coupe 16V Turbo in a GTV.

That would be NineOneSix - Brad. It is now slightly dead but was one hell of a car

 

Update: I'm onto a project that needs a new rear subframe

 

I have a 20vt and a V6 Coupe, love them both, but both very different beasts. The 20vt is a faster car in straight-ish line speed, more striking to look at, better rear seats (useable), a boot, better tuning options for big power; the Alfa far more luxurious, better made, tighter/tauter feeling chassis/floorplan with better cornering (Q2 fitted) and driving feedback, the V6 is amazingly creamy and can pull from almost any revs (IMO). To me probably stating the obvious but neither is an out and out 'sports car' they are obviously GT's:

"A grand tourer (Italian: gran turismo) (GT) is a performance or luxury automobile capable of high speed or spirited long-distance driving. The most common format is a two-door coupé with either a two-seat or a 2+2 arrangement."

They both look beautiful and are now rare enough to feel special (rather than all the other metal boxes) and when needed they make great pace with both style and panache. Both are keepers, both make me look back when I park them up.

I had the choice and went for the GTV V6, I'm glad I did, better engine and becoming less and less common. Wouldn't fancy the mpg for an everyday car though

 

Have you thought about a Quaife diff for your 20vt? Makes as much different to the Coupe as fitting a Q2 must have done on your GTV V6.


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I don't use my car everyday so mpg isn't an issue. I must say that the twinnie is returning 36mpg on the work run though. Much better than expected

I had a look at a 20vt when I bought the badges for mine, the chap had a red one that was big power. I was impressed with the interior space and the boot looked relatively huge!

 

ive owned both and for me in terms of fun factor of course its got to be the V6. The thing that makes the V6 potentially non viable could be the fuel and the insurence. Whether or not these are an issue is down to peoples financial situation. The twinnie is a good engine, but the V6 is one of the best engines out there. In terms of handling. The GTV isnt exactly great ,its stable and sticky, but pushing it beyond its limit will just cause you to loose grip on the front untill the front slides. Put the power down too early and you get tons of torque steer which can take you buy surprise and can be annoying (not driven a Q2'd one). The twinnie just didnt highlight these handling issues as much as the heavier punchier V6. The ride on the GTV is also a bit brutal. GTV's are still very cool though.

 

As you can see I have both.

The V6 with a Q2 diff matches the TS in handling - the Q2 takes out the torque steer which is otherwise very "interesting". Trust me it is so drivable through bends and, as I have said elsewhere, as you accelerate out of a bend and plant your foot the V6 will leave a twinny standing.

Get a 2.0 and a V6 driving side by side at 50 mph (LizR and I have) then see who can get to 70 mph quickest - the V6 just blows the twinny away.

Don't get me wrong - I love the 2.0 GTV and drove it for a very enjoyable 130k miles before I got the V6 Spider. But bottom line is V6 every time.

 

Does the Viscosdrive diff in the Coupe 20V Turbo wear much?

Have many on FCCUK swapped out the Viscosdrive for an LSD?

 

Yes we've been selling the Quaife diffs for Alfa GTAs etc to Fiat Coupe 20vt owners and Coupe specialists, they're a great upgrade. We worked out a kit of Fiat-group parts-bin stuff to delete the viscodrive and just use the Quaife. So much more aggressive on the turn in, you have to watch for oversteer as normally they would understeer first, which isn't the case once you fit the Quaife.

 

Thanks pud. I didn't know that. It's always good to learn new stuff.

Symon and I have kicked around the Coupe 20VT versus GTV V6 football around a bit before. The Viscodrive for the Coupe was deemed a positive along with framed windows and a variator that just seemed to work. Some car buffs are taken aback that an engine would have variable valve timing AND a turbo.

 

I think the 20v turbo is a great engine, one of Fiat's best to be remembered alongside their old twin cam. I'd love to do a 20VT-powered Alfa project.

 

Ive had both the TS and V6. You've probably heard this plenty of times before , but the V6 feels like it has Double the Power of the TS and would blow away the TS anyday.

However the TS has brilliant handling and much more satisfying than the V6 round corners. Although Ive heard the V6 is better with the Q2 which I don't have yet.

 

Shocking facts



Too many posts like this gives others the impression that the V6 doesn't handle well....compared to the TS. It does....especially if the front shocks are good, preferably renewed. The V6's engine weight kills front shocks....which then make the front end handle far worse than a TS(& many other cars).

I've never changed front shocks on any of the over 20 TSs I've sold but I've lost count of the V6s I've had to & I've had approx 40 of them. Even on the 2001 1 owner 52,000 mile Zoe GTV V6 new std front shocks+springs has transformed the front end. There are many higher mileage & older V6 GTVs out there, most still on their original shocks.

Loads of people moan about the GTV's suspension, mainly V6 owner's. Not many of them renew it but think that's how it is.

Konis, with or without Eibachs, aren't necessary....just std shocks.

Loads of people quote Jeremy Clarkson's test of the GTV....because he raves about it....& it's handling. Well he's driving a V6 but it's obviously virtually a new one which means it's on newish suspension. Did Clarkson ever test a TS....I doubt it as he's a petrol head(can be funny but also bit of a d*ck,IMO).

A Q2 will help prevent a diff failure, & cracked gearbox casing, but it doesn't really improve the handling until you're really pushing the limit or on a slippery surface. Put a Q2 in a V6 with knackered front shocks & try driving it fast.....it would still be all over the place.

Clive

 

I have 4 new konis all round and the car is still fairly new. The car does handle well when Im at higher speeds but doesn't have that natural feel like its on rails of the TS.

 

All this V6 talk.
The TS Spider I have really is one of the best VFM cars I have ever owned. Well actually the best. I can't begin to imagine how good a V6 would be .

 

Yes I have to agree, I love my twinny, especially now it's well sorted.

Still want a V6 though, or another 944S Ventilier, or a 20VT Fiat Coupe lol

 

Phil, did you win the GTV V6 that needed the rear sub frame replacing ?

It went for £1,080.00 - pretty good figure as a few MOT failure V6's I've seen have only gone for £500 odd. Was eyeing it myself as a donor / spare car but it went for too much.