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We have returned back home from my son's friend birthday celebration.
We were five of us inside car ( Me driving, my wife nearby and three 9- years old bandits back seat ).
Actually last three ones fly around the car since they have spent 4 hours at Angry Birds park prior.
I have missed the line driving in some specific place where traffic police available.
They have stop me since they normally are bore to do. That is not a problem.
One of the bandits as above has opened a car rear window and say to policemen - Hi Guys... :biglaugh:
So, fine is not quite essential. It is about 3k Russian roubles which is about full tank fuel filling.
Just curious how it works Europe.
No morality for 3 child seats miss please.
 

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It's mandatory that, where fitted, all occupants must wear seatbelts in the UK, I don't know what the fine is though, perhaps £50??
 

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I do not talk about seat belts use. Anyway how to catch one for seat belt non use ???...
Our rules means that child under 12 yo is to be carried with any child device...
This is something I want to know.
 

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Any child under 12?

That's a ridiculous age. Many 12 year old kids are physically larger than many adults!
 

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Its not 12 in the UK. It's up to 1.35m OR 12 years old.

Up to 1.35m (or under 12) you must use "an appropriate child restraint (booster seat or cushion) for the child's weight"

So in other words, if you have a child of any age who is over 1.35m tall you use a normal seat belt just like an adult.

If you have a 9 year old who is under 1.35m, but who is, shall we say, well-fed - they can use a booster seat/cushion that is fitted per manufacturers instruction and keeps the seat belt correctly position per height.

If you have a car full of 9 year old boys who are all under 1.35m tall in a UK car they need to be on boosters and using the adult seat belts.

Out here in the Good Old UA of E, there are no rules for any sort of seat belts for adults or kids (or if they are, then none are enforced). We see toe curling sights every day of cars doing 120kmh down the motorway with toddlers hanging out of car windows waving or even kids with their heads and shoulders out of sun roofs waving their hands. Genuine wisdom here is that your toddler is safer on your wife's lap in the front passenger seat (no seat belt) than anywhere else.....

A lot like the UK in the 70s actually!
 

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The 12 years or 1.35m specification makes sense.

While I am against laws specifying compulsory seat belt use for adults on ground of personal freedom, rules about seat belt or safety device usage for minors are OK.

Your observation on toddlers on laps in cars being perceived as the safest place made me think of a case in the news here recently, where an 8 months pregnant woman rolled her vehicle and was ejected from it, causing the death of both mother and unborn. She probably bought into the nonsense that a seat belt harms the unborn child in the case of an accident and therefore did not wear one.
I've never understood people's reasoning on that. So if a seat belt harms the unborn in an accident, what on earth do you think being violently flung into the dashboard or out of the vehicle will do? :furious:
 

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Haha! At the age of 10 or so, I remember going on trips sat in the "boot" area of an Austin Maxi, along with the family dog who was also unrestrained...


My mum and dad obviously hated me :p
 
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