Jimmy, i can give you a mint condition P1 gearbox for £80 fella (No reverse gear crunch and all gears when selected smooth as silk), i can also give you the links to workshop manual and various threads that show how easy it is to replace the gearbox ....... its alot easier than you think fella.

 

Oh man why dont you live near me buddy see this is what makes this forum special, the kindness of people and the true want to help. EauRouge that is very kind, forgive me but does the clutch come with the gearbox? if it does then I could phone the garage for the cost of swapping the gearbox and seriously buddy I'm a Software developer and I'm no mechanic just a weekend want to be.

Now does anybody live in Kent, fancy a great day out at mine (obviously lunch and a hand shake included ) to come fit a gearbox with me. I'm a great learner and a superb helper monkey :lol:.

 

I'd say yes I'll come and help you, however my bella is currently lying in the gutter, like a cheap 'ho, with the grease of a dirty mechanic all over her beautiful bits.

Jim, the reason why i bought the car was for the engine and gearbox, it is a 115K mile car but, unlike my daily driver there is no judder when pulling away and no crunch when selecting reverse, i was told the clutch was replaced 20K previously and it does make sense as it is very smooth. I still have to remove it from car myself but can do this on Saturday? I could let you drive it yourself so you could see for yourself. If you wanted 100% peace of mind i would recommend that while the box is out you should stick in a new clutch but in all honesty i don't reckon it needs a new one, i reckon its simply a bolt in job but! im not scared to remove it if i do encounter problems. You could have your mechanic inspect the bearing and clutch before he installs infact i'll take a few close-up pics before you decide to purchase if that suits. Jim, bottom line is i can't give you any guarantee but your mechanic will probably insist on sticking a new clutch and release bearing otherwise there will be no guarantee from him. However, personally i believe/know the gearbox and clutch are better than my daily driver.

PS: If it does let you down in 3 months i will give you your money back.

May I enquire as to what you are doing with the engine ER?

PS, that's a brilliant offer about the gearbox.

 

sad story indeed maybe next week will be better for you - had a feelin' it was the gbox but not for the reason you say but it dont matter.......I hope someone near you helps out sounds like you deserve a break

 

The clutch is mounted in gearbox bell housing its all enclosed along with release bearing, it's simply drop the old and in with the new and bob's your uncle!

 

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129610&stc=1&d=1321563316

 

Oh Eaurouge you maybe my hero in this dark hour of need and seriosuly I'm not one to normally ask for help, but gtvtommo you cant be more right.

All this started 3 months ago when I paid out all our hard earned savings on a really lovely driveway that I had longed for my entire life but sadly my joy was short lived when my HG failed in my MG and then my wifes in the TF. If you know anything about MG's then this is its true weak spot of the K series and I just couldnt bring myself to pay out on two HG's and with my wifes being the better car I said that I would trade it in quickly (nor did I have the money if I wanted to, the one was hard enough). My wifes HG failed in a royal manor which left the car undrivable but mine was the early signs of failure so I had the option of trade. Obviously may I point out its Christmas so I had planned to pay for the drive in September and buy the Chrsitmas presents in October and November and then obviously the HG failures and a bill of £825 hit hard as we paid everything for the drive but its so lovely .

So Eaurouge if I can get some kind person to assist me in this dark hour or if the labour at the garage is affordable tomorrow when I phone them, then you have yourself a deal, and really thank you. Are you happy to hold it for me till weekend?

 

I am jim, no worries there, it is labour intensive. I believe an Alfa Garage could swap in 3-4 hrs, but expect 6 hrs labour cost, honestly if you had access to a hoist and trolley jack you could do it yourself its easier than taking out engine as the right hand side of bay is just the gearbox below the induction pipes, if your mechanic needs the worksop manual pm me and i'll send you a copy. Keep her alive as P1's are as rare as hen's teeth these days.

 

You are right though it doesnt look overally hard does it, its just something I would fear doing for the first time on my own with little knowledge and I just know I would get in a pickle .

I totally with you on the phase 1's buddy, over my short time on the forum I have seen that the love is stronger with the phase 1 and would it be unkind of me to say that its the TS to have? I dont mean any disrespect to its newer if slightly more advanced brothers.

 

The manual takes you through it step by step, the only problem would be the tools as you need a hoist and be able to get below to free a few things.

Have a read of Biffa's and Mitch166's threads, they are very educational and inspiring for the DIY mechanic
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-gtv-and-916-spider/290806-biffas-gtv-project-4.html

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/motoring-images/168718-my-new-project.html

 

Oh man what a shame, was this saying you would if you could ? I hope old bella gets well soon for you.

I'm no mechanic but more there have been a few occasions when the advice given from the fantastic people on this forum has provided me with the confidence to tackle a job and this is another job I would have been prepared to have a go at, once I had read Biffa's and Mitch166's threads (and a few others I guess), as ER has recommended.

I was also going to suggest that 00AlfaAndy would be willing to help you but I didn't want to volunteer him for the job :lol: and in any case, he's coming over tomorrow to help remove the head on Lucea.

And it goes without saying that I hope you get yours sorted - let us know how you progress and good luck :thumbs:

 

Back in Nov 2009, the big end went in my 156 JTS, i had done some minor servicing noting more but i was skint and with christmas coming bit the bullet and deciced to repair and recon the engine myself, since then i havnet looked back and enjoy every break down as a chance to learn that little bit more...

For the £80 and the cost of a clutch, a cheap jack and axle stands from machinemart and a socket set, even if it takes you a month of sundays you will be able to do it...

I changed a Selespeed gearbox on my own at someone else house in a day... You wont get another car for the £400 your asking but you can fix your own for less than £250 yourself.

And i know there are a couple of guys out there in your are that might be able to point you in the right direction. If you wanted to do the CAM belt i might be agle to lend you CAM locking tools... For some guidance see my link below...

 

Speak of the devil!:lol:

 

 

If can get hold of the gearbox then I'm sure that if you contact Smaky (not on here anymore ... but you'll find him over on alfa156.net) that if you pay his petrol and some beer money I'm sure he'd come round and do it ... alternatively if you can drive it over to wiltshire ... but of a trek I know ... on a saturday I'm sure he'd help you out


... definiately worth an ask (especially if you can spin some sob story :lol: ... he did once rebuild a whole engine that had severve water damage gratis)

 

hang on a min just read that again sounds like gbox ok just release bearing and new clutch assembly surely.............mind gbox still gotta come off but clutch n bearing etc is that what you're getting for £600 ?

 

I suspect the clutch fork has made contact with the clutch assy...

 

Just to make you feel better, my car needs a new gearbox, driveshafts, clutch and power steering rack

lots of monies :lol:

thats before i tackle the paint and rear suspension bushes issue :s

 

hang on a min just read that again sounds like gbox ok just release bearing and new clutch assembly surely.............mind gbox still gotta come off but clutch n bearing etc is that what you're getting for £600 ?

Yeah the garage quoted £640 for the clutch change which will include the release bearings. But as someone pointed out it could also be something in the gearbox as well and EauRouge can do me a silky smooth gearbox with the clutch and bearings in it already for £80 :thumbs: I think its a no brainer really but I just need to check the labour charge tomorrow.

And i know there are a couple of guys out there in your are that might be able to point you in the right direction. If you wanted to do the CAM belt i might be agle to lend you CAM locking tools

Thanks Biffa that is exceptionally kind of you. I did look over the guide on how to change your cambelt and it really didnt look overlly hard so if all goes well I make take you up on that kind offer.

If can get hold of the gearbox then I'm sure that if you contact Smaky (not on here anymore ... but you'll find him over on alfa156.net) that if you pay his petrol and some beer money I'm sure he'd come round and do it ... alternatively if you can drive it over to wiltshire ... but of a trek I know ... on a saturday I'm sure he'd help you out

Exceptional, true kindness. I will see how I get on and see if anyone is more local but again I may call upon him with my very sad story , thank you.

 

If the gearbox is ok, supply and fit of clutch seems a little expensive, but it note cheap in your neck of the woods either...

check this thread out http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-gtv-and-916-spider/308627-gtv-clutch-replacement.html#post4462395

 

I suspect the clutch fork has made contact with the clutch assy...

Interesting, so this would stop the gears from being selected? if it helps when I lose the gears they really arent there anymore, it just feels like I'm hitting a rubber bumper, no gears in sight and then after some messing it pops into gear, but not smoothly at that point but it does again on the next gear change, well it did upto yesterday when the fault and come really clear. Now you just dont know whats going to happen when you push the clutch down. You also know before you go to take it out of gear that it is going to do it, the clutch gets a really odd feeling and pressure through it. Also there is a really noisey noise from the gearbox, you can really hear it out side the car. Its a hard noise to explain in words and its not a pleasant noise either. The noise starts when you attempt to put it into gear, and not when you first press the clutch. Once in gear the noise stays but you dont hear it when you get going so I dont know if its still there or not at that point.

 

check this thread out http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...ml#post4462395

Wow £335 seems alot cheaper than I got quoted. I will check with them tomorrow why it was £640. I do think that I am better to go with the new gearbox from EauRouge though as it has everything with it so it will be even cheaper with labour I really am running on a tight budget here.

EauRouge - Is the clutch good in the gearbox? good bite and all that? any idea on the mileage. I do think I'm going to go with your kind offer, I really think its a phase 1 car saver deal :thumbs: shall I PM you tomorrow so we can sort it out?

 

Jim, the reason why i bought the car was for the engine and gearbox, it is a 115K mile car but, unlike my daily driver there is no judder when pulling away and no crunch when selecting reverse, i was told the clutch was replaced 20K previously and it does make sense as it is very smooth. I still have to remove it from car myself but can do this on Saturday? I could let you drive it yourself so you could see for yourself. If you wanted 100% peace of mind i would recommend that while the box is out you should stick in a new clutch but in all honesty i don't reckon it needs a new one, i reckon its simply a bolt in job but! im not scared to remove it if i do encounter problems. You could have your mechanic inspect the bearing and clutch before he installs infact i'll take a few close-up pics before you decide to purchase if that suits. Jim, bottom line is i can't give you any guarantee but your mechanic will probably insist on sticking a new clutch and release bearing otherwise there will be no guarantee from him. However, personally i believe/know the gearbox and clutch are better than my daily driver.

PS: If it does let you down in 3 months i will give you your money back.

 

I trust you EauRouge :thumbs: from what you say I think I will be safe enough to bolt it on. I take it there is no unusual noises from the gearbox when you go to enter the gear? unlike mine. If you could inspect it when you remove it on Saturday I will be obviously very grateful.

 

PS: If it does let you down in 3 months i will give you your money back.

Sold

Thanks again to you and everyone for there kind support this evening but I must go to bed now as the wife isnt very well, she keeps being :vomit:. It looks like we might have managed to bring her back from the dead after all :thumbs:

hehe found a use at last for that smilie, but dont tell the wife it was at her expense :cheese:

 

No worries jim, i will start looking into couriers for quotes.

 

i use this gang...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/parcel_group/m.html?item=170706273945&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562

 

Hey Jimmy, i'm so sorry to hear your bad luck with your gtv recently, it's about time you had a break with your recent car troubles, but i'm sure there is hope on the horizon :thumbs:

I hope the wife gets better soon and if you need lifts anywhere give me a shout, i'm here for you fella

I'll give you a call later today mate

 

You keep mentioning the release bearing...it's just a plastic bit holding a bearing. It's not part of the gearbox, it's part of the clutch kit. It pushes against the pressure splines when the clutch is pressed.

I posted up a link to a £60 delivered clutch kit. All the belts and tensioners can be bought for £110. Variator...if the rattling stops after a few seconds then I will be 99% positive and say an oil change using an oil flush will cure that.

 

indeed it looks like a bit of a mix up here........unless by a million to 1 chance the gearbox went at the same time as clutch damage I would not expect any damage to the gbox so a clutch renewal kit with a new fork if needs be should survice (assuming the fork can be replaced seperate to gbox)

 

I'd say yes I'll come and help you, however my bella is currently lying in the gutter, like a cheap 'ho, with the grease of a dirty mechanic all over her beautiful bits.

Oh man what a shame, was this saying you would if you could ? I hope old bella gets well soon for you.

PS, that's a brilliant offer about the gearbox.

I know a total gent isnt he. I really owe him for this.

indeed it looks like a bit of a mix up here........unless by a million to 1 chance the gearbox went at the same time as clutch damage I would not expect any damage to the gbox so a clutch renewal kit with a new fork if needs be should survice (assuming the fork can be replaced seperate to gbox)

I only have one shot at this and EauRouges offer is a total match winner, he may have saved my car. Personally I wouldnt feel comfortable just changing the clutch. I guess if you had driven my vechicle for 6 weeks and lived with this you might understand but I have never come across this problem so bad in a car before, it really is dangerous when it does it and I am worried that it will do it on a motorway which would be just awful.



EauRouge - Got the gearbox fitting sorted today and at a superb price. £180 all in, total price. Basically it takes 5.6 hours so labour intensive but the garage I have found where spot on, not rude towards Alfa's and he has worked on many Alfa GTV's in his time. Also the place only does transmissions :thumbs: he is happy for us to send it straight to his garage and have me drop my car around there so for around £260 I dont think I can go wrong. I have had very mixed quotes back today for fitting a TS gearbox and it really isnt cheap, the best being £280 at my mechanics and I have had as much as £400 obviously depending on labour charges per hour so when he said he knows Alfa GTV's and he can do it all in for £180 and being a transmission specialist then this surely must be my best price, surely. PM'ing you now buddy.