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I'm considering buying a rather high mileage cloverleaf G, it's currently on 110k, if this were a diesel I would buy it tomorrow. But as it's the petrol 1.8TBi, I'm a bit hesitant about buying it. What mileage have all you cloverleaf owners racked up? Would you say 110k is a bit too much? The guy selling it is claiming it's mostly motorway miles and going by the photo's the car does look in good condition throughout. Anyway, what do you guys think? :thumbup:
 

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If the price is right and it has been looked after then why not?

It is likely to have had less cold starts, and plenty of long runs which are very easy on engine, turbo and drivetrain components.

You might find the suspension is a bit baggy, but changing bushes and dampers isn't the end of the world... Plus unless it has had some paint expect a few stone chips.
 

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My old 156 v6 had 220,000 on it when I sold it as long as its been serviced and cambelt had been done at the right intervals then go for it!

Check the front end for stone chipping as the giulietta is very good at picking up stone chips

Also check suspension for worn springs and dampers

Zoo :thumbs:
 

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Just wondering why you wouldn't hesitate if it was a diesel? What makes you think petrol can't take high miles?
 

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110k isn't high miles anyway...
I agree, the trouble is many people remember the old days of poor machining tolerances, running-in and Mineral 20w-50 engine oils when engine life was much shorter.

In those days most engines would need a rebuild at 80,000 miles and on most the cars odometer only went up to 99,999 miles befor resetting to zero as the car wasn't expected to last that long.

The psychological 100k mileage thing still exists though.
 

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Hi guys
I'm considering buying a rather high mileage cloverleaf G, it's currently on 110k, if this were a diesel I would buy it tomorrow. But as it's the petrol 1.8TBi, I'm a bit hesitant about buying it. What mileage have all you cloverleaf owners racked up? Would you say 110k is a bit too much? The guy selling it is claiming it's mostly motorway miles and going by the photo's the car does look in good condition throughout. Anyway, what do you guys think? :thumbup:
A full service history of regular oil changes (every 9,000 miles) should assist in re-assurance about the engine & mechanical's state of health
 

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This has always made me wonder...

Petrol engines wear out faster than Diesels but the rest of the car wears out the same.
Do petrol engines wear out faster than diesels? When you read stories about all the million miles plus cars; they are all petrol.
 

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Thanks all for the responses. I got in touch with the seller and unfortunately a deposit has been put down on it, but I have first refusal if the deal breaks down. It's still on eBay so it's certainly worth having a look at.

The only G model's that I was interested in was the Veloce and the Cloverleaf. After looking at a couple of Veloce's, I decided I wouldn't have been completely happy swapping from my 147 DC, which ( IMO) felt it had slightly better performance and I preferred the wheels on mine. The veloce doesn't have the lowered suspension package or the nicest of wheels. So I narrowed it down to white cloverleaf's, which I think look awesome. Trouble is they are holding their value very well compared to the other G's, which is understandable. Unfortunately, this one on eBay is the only one I could afford, for now anyway, so I think I'll have to stick with my 147 for another 6 months or so.

Here it is anyway:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Rome...026253?hash=item46448129cd:g:sHgAAOSwFGNWRJIW

and yes I know I got the mileage slightly wrong, I was typing on my phone:biglaugh:
 

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Do petrol engines wear out faster than diesels? When you read stories about all the million miles plus cars; they are all petrol.
well, here's the top 20 of the belgian autoforum mileage thread. Not everybody contributes, obviously

710.000 km -- 2003 -- PJH -- Volkswagen Bora -- 1.9TDI -- 10/2015
649.300 km -- 1966 -- Cotoneaster --Mercedes w110 -- Diesel 2 -- 07/2014
545.000 km -- 1991 -- matteus -- Mercedes-Benz 300TD -- 3.0 atmo diesel
530.000 km -- 1990 -- Carlito -- Renault Espace -- 2100cc diesel
507.000 km -- 1986 -- W201 -- Mercedes-Benz 190D -- 2.0 diesel 72pk
502.000 km -- 1994 -- GTX -- Citroen C15 -- 1.9 diesel
490.000 km -- 1991 -- motorman -- Toyota Corolla sw DXL -- 2.0 diesel
485.000 km -- 1990 -- RRD -- Mercedes-Benz 300SE -- 3.0 atmo LPG
472.000 km -- 1988 -- fcapri -- VW golf 2 -- 1.6D -- 05/2015
464.770 km -- 1993 -- Yorvic -- Volvo 240 GLT Estate -- 2.0i LPG -- 05/2014
394.000 km -- 1997 -- W201 -- Mercedes-Benz C250TD break - 2.5 turbodiesel 150pk -- 05/2015
380.000 km -- 2001 -- Devildriver -- Golf 4 SDI -- 10/2015
355.000 km -- 2006 -- xKoSai -- Volkswagen Golf 5 Sportline -- 1.9TDI -- 06/2015
341.000 km -- 1990 -- KennyC -- Mercedes Benz 190D 2.5 -- 06/2015
330.000 km -- 1996 -- ksirk -- Volvo 940 -- 2.4 turbodiesel -- 07/2014
316.000 km -- 2003 -- Kristof -- Audi A4 Avant -- 1.9 TDI 07/2014
313.000 km -- 1989 -- Tilt! -- Porsche 964 Carrera 4 -- 3.6 Benzine --11/2014
300.000 km -- 1991 -- WV. -- Mercedes-Benz W124 -- 200D -- 10/2015
290.000 km -- 2004 -- deltabelg -- alfa romeo GT -- 1.9 JTD 16v -- diesel -- 12/2014
280.000 km -- 1989 -- Cotoneaster - Mercedes 190D -- 06/2015


2 petrols in there....
 

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It could be that people who do those sort of mileages almost always buy a diesel.

It might be that a petrol would cost too much to run in comparison hence why you don't often see mega milers. Not that mechanically they cannot do it.
 

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1966 Mercedes W110 with 649.300 km or 13527 km per year... 8000 miles per year that is.

The difference is that only the big petrols are even worth the effort rebulding, none of the diesels are worth it either.


In the old days, before common rail the diesels lasted longer, but now the injection system is on it's last legs after 200k miles. That's the design limit if the car always had proper fuel conforming to EN590. ASTM fuel has 15% lower lubricity limits, and on that fuel the same fuel injection equipment is rated only for 120k miles... in practice though, american fuel is equal to european fuel (before adding biodiesel). If the fuel you use is always a lot better than demanded by EN590 you can get stellar mileages. Use pure kerosine and you'll be lucky if the pump and injectors outlast the first tank....
 
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