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try that web link mate, its for a major paint supplier..... the code is for silver.

also ..... "grigio" is italian for silver, "oro" is gold.

im sorry to say, it sounds like your body shop are a bunch of muppets

 

Codigos de pintura para Alfa Romeo

also look here....

 

Sounds to me that the company that mixed the paint in the first place, didnt get it right !

Whatever the case, if it is that big a difference, they should had stopped at the first spray of the gun, or never start spraying in the first place.

Muppets sounds like a decent name for them ...

 

Exactly, why not just paint the wing and see how it looks..not the whole car. You can see the difference when you look at the areas that aren't painted

 

Had a look at that code on the paint card and it's definitely SILVER!! Arrgh. Thanks Kammatic

 

The link above to the paint code definitley looks gray

however, does anyone know what 'Nisida' translates into in Italian (google doesnt!)

Grigio is Gray........I had an old Alfa 75 that was 'Grigio Verde' (Gray Green....or full transaltion in Italian is 'Teal') and I can tell you for sure it was Green (Teal). The laquer was the part that made the Gray go Green if I remember rightly (based on having a single panel sprayed badly).

Silver is Argento, so your paint sticker is a gray base not silver.....you just need to figure out what Nisida is.

 

Nisida is a Volcano in Italy!

does anyone on here have a Sud 105 Green Cloverleaf in Silver....I saw a thread that said that colour was 755 Grigio Nisida.

 

So is a volcano grey ? Silver or gold

 

well, if you go to google images and type in 'alfa sprint grigio nisida' enough photo's will come up to show it isnt gold thats for sure.

 

In any case, i would cut my losses and take it somewhere else

 

Well I've agreed to go and see them tomorrow. Bought a can of AR 755/AF Grigio Nisida today from the bodyshops same supplier and painted half an old mirror with it. The old paint is Bianco Argento AR270 which I thought might be useful for comparison. The idea was to show that they had been supplied a bad batch. My test was useful (see pic). I'm convinced the paint code is correct

from my car label. I have a different paint shop in mind already...

 

maybe this link will help ALFA ROMEO PAINT CODES

 

Tim's Alfasud Page

Check colours and fabrics!

 

Forgot to say the paint on the right of the mirror is a close match to the colour of the car at the moment

 

Hi Richard - a couple of observations:

Firstly, what a great shame that the sterling job you are doing with the car has been messed up by a fairly elementary error. As you say, surely they should have questioned the different colour straight away?!

Secondly, as previous owner of the car, I'm not aware of any change of bonnet and I don't recall there being anything in the history file that I passed onto you. I was pretty content that the front end of the car was original. And surely if it was a new bonnet with a different paint code sticker, the bonnet would have been a different colour!

In terms of colours I think AR 755/AF Grigio Nisida is the correct colour for a 1986 Green Cloverleaf Sprint. Tim's Alfasud page backs this up, though without the numerical codes:

"Buyers of the Sprint 1.5 QV could only chose between the colours Rosso Alfa, Bianco Capodimonte, Nero and Grigio Nisida metallizzato while the Sprint 1.3 was available in further metallic colours (coming from the range of colours of the Alfasud series III) in the beginning of its career.

With the launch of the Sprint 1.7 QV three colours remain in the range: Rosso Alfa, Nero and the new tone Bianco Argento metallizzato."

I think Bianco Argento is the sort of 'champagne' colour that the later 1.7 Cloverleafs came in (with tweed cloth trim) - is this what they have sprayed it with?

Below are what I think Grigio Nisida and Bianco Argento look like:

Paul

 

Thanks so much Paul, makes feel more confident about the heated debate I'm about to have with the body shop!

 

I presume the car has not been put back together - so at worst they will have to flatten off and respray.

It is there mistake but for the sake of it I would have in the back of my mind that I would eventually offer to pay for the new paint (last time I did that it was about £150) and they do the work.

Sometimes a compromise, even if you end up out of pocket can be the best thing. I once had a similar fight with a garage and lost the car all together.

Think of the gold paint as another undercoat in this case perhaps.

I would agree with you though that it needs to be the colour you want. There are those champagne 33's around and for one I just hate the colour. It is :vomit: but I suppose it was around the 80's and all that.....

 

It's a fair point that the gold paint will form a good base coat, after all it was a bare metal respray so the extra layer will help the finish. Worst case scenarios did enter my mind such as not being able to sort the dispute out and forfeiting the car but I hope it doesn't come to that. It doesn't help that I agreed to meet him at the paint shop and he wasn't there, said he was watching a football match ?. As for the gold I just couldn't live with it when I know how good the silver/grey looks.

 

I would agree with all of that....

 

oh my! Best of luck with resolving this.

 

Thanks, I've stopped feeling queasy when thinking about this problem which is an improvement ?

 

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-33-sud-and-sprint/268353-alfasud-ti-qv-code-color.html
This has My colour code on it and mind was SILVER:thumbs:

 

Thanks, that's the proof I need. Should have a better idea of what happens next on Monday

 

Any progress?

 

Well it's come to a grinding holt..I could say it's the wrong colour til I'm blue in the face but it won't help! I'll find a way somehow ?

 

Good point - I had forgotten that I was following this one.........

 

So, is the car still with them......?

 

It's still with them, hoping to reach an amicable arrangement though

 

Not sure what they think their position is in this case ?
Surely they have made a basic error and painted the car the wrong colour.It isn't the correct metallic silver (it does look like the champagne colour to me) end of story.IMO they have to either repaint it the correct colour or you collect it with no charge and have it painted elsewhere.
Good luck.

 

Well they claim it is the correct colour as far as current paint techniques will allow, they don't accept that there is a problem. Taking the car isn't/wasn't an option as he told his assistant to 'put the car away' ?. Obviously they have time and money spent on the car and won't give that up even though they're in the wrong.

 

in kiwi land we have a disputes tribunal which is like fake court for this kind of issue & is pretty easy to threaten people with/ people will follow the ruling.

I think you could go in there though, be prepared to pay some, but not all, and try very hard to leave with the car. I wouldn't want these guys giving it another go...

Good luck

 

Thanks Soody, think I will have to have a word pretty soon. Don't really want to go down the legal road, will avoid that if possible.

 

Hope it all works out for you ok.

 

Thanks