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Hi,
I`m on my second Alfa. Owned a 156 and now own a 159...much to my husband`s annoyance(love it!!).
He hates the car and his first reaction when I said its clutch was slipping was to get rid of it.
Anyway, garage had it to change the clutch but it didn`t slip no matter what the clutch guy did so it didn`t get done. Now, some 2-3 months later, I`m on the motorway and going through the higher gears whilst passing a lorry...the clutch slips and the revs are there but I`m not really going any faster. I`ve been carefully driving it since ...not wanting to break down on the M4! It`s fine from a standstill and even on hills but still loses power , not every day as I`m driving it like it`s a baby, but when I push it a bit. I try not to do this now but believe that if I did push it, it would still be slipping.
Any ideas, please?
 

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what's the mileage like on the car? if the previous owner driven it locally (unlikely as its diesel) then clutch is prone to more wear than long distance driving

one thing you can try is put in 1st gear and slowly lift the clutch and feel when the clutch starts to engage. i believe a good clutch will engage just when you start to lift before halfway, if you lift more than half way and then it engages then clutch might need replacing. check with a reputable Alfa specialist in your area or last resort try kwik fit.
 

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Mileage is 33,000. Car was a leased car when I bought it from a dealer. I`m the second owner.It had done 22,000 when I bought it. Have no problems starting off on a hill etc. I have read other stories about similar problem on the net but decided to put it on the Forum to get some degree of accuracy and knowledge before I invest in a new clutch and find it`s some kind of liquid intermittently going onto the clutch or something. The clutch guy couldn`t find a problem last time I took it to him but it is slipping whilst I`m on the motorway and I need to travel on it everyday and do high speeds. Thanks for trying to help Hope to have some other ideas and will keep looking at Forum if anyone else has any other ideas.
 

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It does sound like it needs a new clutch. Unusual at that mileage, but it does depend on how the car has been driven.

Driving with a slipping clutch can damage the Dual mass flywheel (due to the heat produced) so be careful with it until it is fixed.
 

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Will be the clutch seen it a number of times on 159's.I had a 159 with 25k slip on me when under heavy load on the motorway.The customer reported the same symptoms as yours.Replaced the clutch and fault never returned a number of 159's from new had clutch slipping issues as did the vauxhall insignia which has the same f40 gearbox and clutch system.A revised clutch was fitted and the fault never returned.
 

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The clutch on 1.9 diesels in particular seems to be very weak and soft - often fading and burning when manoeuvring on a hill for example. Certainly my MY2008 model was pretty poor and showed signs of slipping in high gears at around 40,000 miles. I suspect 2.4s had a different clutch as they rarely report problems.
As has been said, don't let it slip too much or you may be in for a new flywheel as well.
I cured mine by getting rid of the car to an Alfa dealer. Wasn't impressed.
 

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any ideas what year models were affected by this and by which year this was rectified?

mine is 2006/07, done 54k miles so just need to be sure and watch out for obvious signs.
 

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Just booked mine in for a clutch replacement. Poor time of year as can`t be done until Jan 9th!.It will go to a garage we know who specialise in clutch replacements. Hopefully they`ll also place it on their computer and reset the `change oil` light, as my husband has, at last, managed to get that sump nut undone ! Will let you know if new clutch solves the problem. I really hope that that flywheel will be ok as I`ll have to drive sometimes over the holiday as other `car` is a big Warrior and can never find a big parking space.
 

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any ideas what year models were affected by this and by which year this was rectified?

mine is 2006/07, done 54k miles so just need to be sure and watch out for obvious signs.
Mine was MY2008, registered mid 2008. Not sure how it affected cars before or after but I know my car wasn't the only one affected.
 

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Silvasands, if the gearbox is coming out, get the flywheel changed as well. I recognise the symptoms you describe, had exactly the same problem at around 35K on a 08 car. Its that darn DMF again.:mad:
 

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DMF ? Is that something to do with the computer system?
For the info re what yrs are affected by clutch problems...mine is a 2008. Had noticed a subtle problem with the clutch since I first put my foot on the pedal....my old Alfa 156 1.9 petrol with LPG conversion , sports pack and lowered....yes, missing it....was far `easier` on the clutch. I always felt , since driving this 159, that it wasn`t , `quite right.
 

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My MY2009 1.9 Ti had clutch and DMF (Dual Mass Flywheel) replaced at 19K:wow: No questions asked by Mangoletsi under warranty, not a rare occurance by all accounts.

the clutches are weak on the 1.9's this then leads to DMF problems.
 

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That`s quite annoying to realise. If there`s a known problem, the cars should/could have been recalled as not fit for purpose! An expensive , `extra` for anyone`s C`mas bills. My car is from Mangoletsi`s.
 
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