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Hi all,

I'm starting this thread in the assumption (i think I read here somewhere) that the non-bose headunit doesn't have a seperate amp or sub out?

I had a Mondeo Titanium with the Sony DAB head unit in it. This was nice, and had 8 speakers, but no sub. So I got a couple of 12" subs for the boot, an amp, and a ration step down converter which also deals with remote switch on for the amp power.

I had no problems taking the centre console to bits and getting the head unit out for a speaker level take off from the loom where the head unit is.
I chose to do this because I didn't want to take the doors to bits and try getting to the loom there.

So, when I get the alfa, I'm going to put either these subs in the boot or the Pioneer space saver. Either way, I'll need a speaker level wire in the boot for the amp.

So, does anyone know how the head unit comes out and which colours are the speakers (or is it obvious like the standard plugs are), or, do we think it would be easier to get a speaker take off from elsewhere?

Ideally I want a left and a right, but if I have to settle for just 1, I can live with that.

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To get to the radio you just pull off (literally) the whole fascia. The radio is then a standard DIN shape with a funny sized front plate that has all the buttons and fits the non-standard hole in the dashboard.

I believe its just a standard ISO connector with the speaker wires in one and the power connectors in another, but I don't have my Guilietta yet so can't be sure.

The unit is made by BLaupunkt, it may even have a line out? Actually I found attached picture on internet, which may help?

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You're an actual genius, but where on earth did you find that? And how do you know it's blaupunkt, it's got Bosch written on it, or is that the same company?

I'm confident now in just taking the headunit out and having a nosey. From what people on here have said, it doesn't have a seperate line out, and I cant quite make out that diagram when enlarged it's not quite big enough to zoom into and read. Is it any bigger on the original site? If so i'd really apreciate a link through so I can have another butchers at it.

Thanks for your help :)
 

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Ha, it does say Bosch doesn't it I did not notice that! I thought they were all Blaupunkt, maybe they bought them or maybe its different.

I had it saved on a memory sitck from surfing in the office (no one does that right?!) I can't find the site now but I think it was a dutch one not an english one.

The unit is just a standard DIN shape with a funny front panel to fit the holes in the dash plate. Dealer tells me you just pull hard to get dash plate of as that's how you get to control module for something (blue and me) and change them for the accessory ones.
 

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Fair play. Thanks for your help :)

I'll look forward to Thurssday and getting it... then i'll pull it apart on Sunday :p

When i'm doing it, I'll take pics and add a walk through like your man with the tow bar, then we've more articles to refer to :)

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No, it's not, i considered that, because I paid I don't know how much (it hurts to think about it) to get the integrated Nav, so it would be a bit of a waste to spend it again. I considered doing something like that in the first place, in place of the integrated nav, and it looks really good in that dash and is in the perfect place fo rusing the touch screen.

From what I can gather, now i've got the nav and the headunit if I do what I did in my last car and add a sub with a ratio step down to get speaker level input (if needed) then I should be ok. At worst, I'll Have to change the door speakers too, and I'll probably only do the front, but it should keep the cost to a minimum.
 

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As you can probably guess, I have been reading up, ordered my Giulietta with no Nav as factory option has no touch screen or 7 digit postcode I was told.

There are LHD versions from connects2 and Pioneer, as well as some other companies I found (dutch I think), but nothing in RHD. I contacted Pioneer but they have no plans to do a RHD version - which is interesting as Pioneer supply to Alfa and you can get Pioneer units in a Mito as a dealer option.

More on topic, can't see why the line level convertors would not work with a sub with the NAV+

Think the pic I put in the thread up a few posts is standard unit not NAV+ though...
 

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micanderson - would say changing the front door speakers (with some sound matting if you can handle the hassle) would also be a good improvement :)
 

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Yeh, the 7 digit post code jobby does put me off. But i'm always either visiting a school or a hotel and the road name is often the only accurate way of getting there anyway.

The converters will work in any car i'm sure so i'm safe there.

Shame no one's making a unit though.
 

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1. Blaupunkt is part of the Bosch group. OEM units are Bosch; retail units are branded as Blaupunkt.
2. The unit in that photo does have a line-out; it's on the mini-ISO socket.
 

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Awesome. So when I get it out and I can read the label i'll be able to see line out :D I'm guessing then it's just + and - L and the same for R so i'll have to run cable to that and solder me some RCA plugs onto the other end? Or alternatively if i'm being lazy chop the plugs off an RCA cable lol.
 

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i've had the pioneer spare wheel mounted sub in my mito for a few months now, was fitted by an audio specialist, the mito headunit is made by blaupunkt as well, would highly recommend it, even with the standard door speakers the sound is transformed dramatically :), have a look at the mito thread 'glovebox damping' for some photos of it installed
 

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Awesome, I was hoping you'd pop along and remind me where that thread was. I've had 2 12" subs in the back of the mondeo, and I just can't see how the pioneer can deliver anything like, but I reckon I'm having it and hoping for the best!
Next time i'm working in London i might try and twist your arm into showing me yours so I can get an idea before I spend the dollar!
 

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some people do seem to take ages to get things done though, i'm the opposite and in that year and a half i've added a pioneer double din head unit and component speakers in the doors, it sounds awesome now :)
 

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ICE upgrade help

been following ice upgrade for a couple of years (still deciding whether to keep G)...anyone know of a good audio installer that has actually done Gs....looking for sub in spare wheel footwell (??), upgrade front speakers, maybe put front speakers in rear doors...I am in Staffordshire. Ta muchly. Oh, I also get to Peterborough and Watford often so installers there would work.
 
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