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Hello to everyone, new member here and shamefully I am not an Alfa owner......YET (Fiat Barchetta for last 8 years)

I have set my heart on a GTV. Having liked the look of them for years, my other half has now given me permission to buy one (not that permission was really needed). So, I have started looking into what is available and researching all the various nuances. Best place to seek advice - here I think...

I think what I am after is a late model low mileage phase 2 TS - the V6 3L I would not be able to justify.

I have read on the internet of the 2.0L TB version - did any of these make it over to the UK in RHD?

I have read a fair few articles here already but would very much appreciate any advice re buying either the 2.0 TS or the 2.0TB both in terms of pitfalls or things to look out for and also recommended Alfa specialists - or indeed if anyone here has something that fits the bill and may want to part with in the coming months...

All the best, Tom
PS sorry if I have broken forum protocol by not posting in the Newb section
 

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oh and you asked about garages / Alfa specialists, so the second thing you should do is check out the south West section, which is to be found here: http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/south-west/

Use the search facility to type in the word "garages" and hopefully that will throw up a few threads where someone has given their opinion on a garage.
 
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Hi Tom welcome to AO.

The 2.0 V6 TB was not a UK issue car, there are a few about in the UK but the vast majority of them are LHD, that said with a donor car and a bit of mechanical knowledge it wouldn't be hard to convert to RHD, whichever TB you looked at expect to be paying a bit more for insurance as well.

Having had both a 2.0 GTV and Spider i can testify they are great cars, they are gifted with user friendly handling and whilst they are a bit of the weighty side they are not that slow.

The 3.0 does have an engine note to die for, with the right exhaust note on it it is almost Ferrari sounding, price wise there is about a £1000 premium for a V6 over a twinnie, when driven normally there are reports that fuel consumption is not that different either.

Given the age of car you are looking at i would say leather is going to be a standard feature, as will air con etc, you may even be looking at one that drops its windows when the doors are open as well.

Service history is everything here....and not just nice stamps in a book, receipts that support that work being done as well,try and get a car that has had its belts and variator changed recently, that will mean you will not get hit with that big bill for a while to come yet.

if you have any more queries, fire away :thumbs:
 

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And the weight is not all bad in that it makes the car less skittish, great handling, very precise, right up to the limit when understeer is apparent, as clarkson said not wishing to detract from a car that he obviously likes a lot..."erm!,it's safe".
 

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Thanks for the warm welcome! My budget is basically 3k give or take a little, so what should I expect, or hang out for from a Twinspark GTV in terms of spec, age, miles etc?
 

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ok, the reason i asked is that i have always driven porsche, jag, lotus etc and they are all brilliant in their own different ways, but six weeks ago when i first drove an alfa, the gtv,.... i bought it on the spot,..... so be careful:)
 

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I've had 2 barchettas and 9 alfas, 3 GTVs (altough only 1 916, my current v6). I would go for the V6 car as you';ll want something as different to your barchetta as possible I would imagine, and they're a tough act to follow. They (GTV V6s) are however, very expensive to maintain and aren't terribly durable (engines and gearbox aside) and I'd be surprised if the average owner on here doesn't spend more per year than the average 911 owner. But, the v6 is such a fabulous car.
 

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Thanks for the warm welcome! My budget is basically 3k give or take a little, so what should I expect, or hang out for from a Twinspark GTV in terms of spec, age, miles etc?
for 3k you can get a nice twinspark with lowish miles if you buy privately. certainly good condition 2001/2002 models will be within your budget with leather interior.
 

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Hi Swallow

I own a 2.0 V6 Turbo and have done for 5 years now. It was a personal import from Belgium by the previous owner. It's LHD but I don't have any problems with it daily driving, you get used to looking around cars before attempting to overtake and you aren't on the opposite side of the road for long once the turbo kicks in anyway.

The RHD converted ones that came to the UK were done by Bell and Colville. I bought an engine last year out of one of these that had rolled. It came with the loom etc, but they cut and spliced them together badly. I can't recall if they did 20 conversions altogether, but I have that figure in mind.

As everyone has mentioned - petrol on a run is on a par with a twinnie, round the doors is a different matter though. Spirited driving also gives the fuel consumption a caning.

Mine was just over £5k 5 years ago - happy hunting :)

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AllI can say is if you are considering a 2.0 TS don't drive a 3.0 V6 first

Great though the 2.0 is, it really doesn't compare performance or sound wise.

IMO the V6 also rides and handles better.

(shameless plug here... Check the link in my signature as mine is for sale. :eek:)
 

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"very expensive to maintain and aren't terribly durable (engines and gearbox aside) and I'd be surprised if the average owner on here doesn't spend more per year than the average 911 owner"

I totally disagree with that and I think that statement is generally misleading.
 
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I agree with delboy. Mine has cost the price of oil and filter for a service and an exhaust back box in the last two years. Having said that though, the previous owner spent plenty on it before I had it. The experience of most is that in the long run it is cheaper to buy a good one than it is to buy cheap and repair things your self.

I also agree with Simon. For me, Alfa is defined by the V6. It is an icon and without it I would just buy something else. However, given that you specifically want a TS, have you had a look in the classifieds? If you do a search, Green Rizla is also considering selling his which is a Ph 3 (facelift) JTS in black. Don't know what he wants for it but it looks OK and sounds like it has been well looked after (if he could stop clouting the bumpers! :D).

Whatever you look at, the phrase to look out for is "rear suspension bushes done and recent cambelt change".
 

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I have spent a fair bit on mine. Mostly consumables though like belts, tyres, plus etc..

The TS could possible cost more to maintain. For a start the cambelt needs changing more often, and the rear suspension is less durable.
 

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autolusso advise to get TS cambelt done every 3 years and the v6 every 4 years (assuming you do less than 12k a year). So in 12 years of ownership, a TS will have one extra cambelt. But, it costs less to get a TS cambelt done than a v6 so if you add the savings each year, it's not going to cost more for the cambelt part.
 

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"very expensive to maintain and aren't terribly durable (engines and gearbox aside) and I'd be surprised if the average owner on here doesn't spend more per year than the average 911 owner"

I totally disagree with that and I think that statement is generally misleading.
I am merely warning at the comparative cost if these cars.

If you look at the average cost of parts and labour on a properly maintained car, it's right up there. My mate has an xjr, same age an mileage as my GTVi, we both have all the history, and the costs are very very close. My 156 v6 was similar, and my 164 v6 seriously expensive for its previous owner. Shocks, bushes, radiators, discs, clutches, cambelts blah blah

Buy from a member here and you'll have a good chance of getting a really well maintained one.
 

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@ Vela Blue - out of interest what is the insurance like on the TB? LHD not a problem for me as I've not had a RHD car for a very long time!

As far as cost of maintenance goes I am not too worried as I am looking to get a recent low miler and then not do many miles myself. I cycle to work & back, so only use a car at the weekend and not every weekend at that. I am looking for a "keeper" just like my Barchetta which is a '95 with only 50K on it.

apologies to those offended by a picture of a fiat....


I am lucky enough to have a good mechanic friend with enough alfa experience and "love" to tend to my future purchase. However I would like to pick a car where the money has been spent already... cambelt/variator etc

Should I be worried about reports of rear suspension failure/problems on 2.0 TS cars - I've been reading about rose joints or the lack of them on 2.0's. Did any of the later models have a better setup?

Also might sound an odd question but are the rear seats removable on the TS?

thanks for all the advice so far btw
 
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