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Evening everyone, discovered an patch oil today on the drive after looking underneath the gtv i've noticed that oiler cooler pipes are so corroded at the point when the flexi pipe goes into solid pipe that they leaking oil quite badly, is there a diy? If not where do i find these pipes at a sensible price or can a aftermarket product be used.
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Evening everyone, discovered an patch oil today on the drive after looking underneath the gtv i've noticed that oiler cooler pipes are so corroded at the point when the flexi pipe goes into solid pipe that they leaking oil quite badly, is there a diy? If not where do i find these pipes at a sensible price or can a aftermarket product be used.
Thanks matthew
Alfaholics for copies of orginal pipes or an Autolusso replacement kit. :thumbs:
 

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Rather that start a new thread, I thought I'd ask here - has anyone had any first hand experience of the alfaholics replacement oil cooler pipes/lines?

I've managed to pick up a new old stock oil cooler for beer money and am wanting to replace the pipes at the same time. I like the originality aspect of the alfaholics pipes (not so keen on price).

How tough a job is it to remove and replace these?

Are the original flexible sections non removable from the rigid lines, other than with a hacksaw? My rigid lines are in great shape, it is just the flexi parts that are looking like trouble.....

Am I right in thinking that the alternative Mocal/Autolusso solution requires cutting of the original hard lines before the flexi join & fitting new rubber hose with jubilee clips?

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It's a nasty job that you may not be able to do with the engine in situ. The autolusso kit does involve cutting the pipes and fitting a replacement cooler. At £200 for the copy pipes against the £230 for the Autolusso kit that you can fit with the car on your drive in a few hours it's a no brainer really. There are no jubilee clips necessary. The rubber pipe pushes on to a fir tree fitting that will never come off once it's on.
 

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It's a nasty job that you may not be able to do with the engine in situ. The autolusso kit does involve cutting the pipes and fitting a replacement cooler. At £200 for the copy pipes against the £230 for the Autolusso kit that you can fit with the car on your drive in a few hours it's a no brainer really. There are no jubilee clips necessary. The rubber pipe pushes on to a fir tree fitting that will never come off once it's on.
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Had the Autolusso kit fitted last year by my local Indy. About an hours labour so much cheaper than the Alfaholics option.
 

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I may be looking at a compromise between the two, as I already have the OEM cooler. What keeps the replacement rubber hose attached to the cut off hard lines, other than the obvious jubilee clip compression? There's no swage or rib in the hard line, I would worry about the join failing/popping off....

Does anyone know what the outer diameter of the rigid line is? There must be a compression fitting to do the job that could be made up by specialists? That way flexi sections could be made up with angled unions at one end for the cooler and straight couplers to the rigid lines?

Edit, just read above re fir tree fitting, need to read up on this...,,
 

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I may be looking at a compromise between the two, as I already have the OEM cooler. What keeps the replacement rubber hose attached to the cut off hard lines, other than the obvious jubilee clip compression? There's no swage or rib in the hard line, I would worry about the join failing/popping off....

Does anyone know what the outer diameter of the rigid line is? There must be a compression fitting to do the job that could be made up by specialists? That way flexi sections could be made up with angled unions at one end for the cooler and straight couplers to the rigid lines?
A compression fitting with the fir tree on it goes on to the steel pipe.. If you put a rubber pipe onto the cut steel one it will certainly come off eventually.
Sounds like your best option is to get a couple of pipes with the correct swaged fittings for your cooler made up at somewhere like Pirtek. I think the external diameter of the steel pipe is 14mm (from memory, don't hold me to that).
 

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My Pirtek solution 1st option

I may be looking at a compromise between the two, as I already have the OEM cooler. What keeps the replacement rubber hose attached to the cut off hard lines, other than the obvious jubilee clip compression? There's no swage or rib in the hard line, I would worry about the join failing/popping off....

Does anyone know what the outer diameter of the rigid line is? There must be a compression fitting to do the job that could be made up by specialists? That way flexi sections could be made up with angled unions at one end for the cooler and straight couplers to the rigid lines?

Edit, just read above re fir tree fitting, need to read up on this...,,
I tried two options from Pirtek for the hoses, the first cost me £40. This involved new hoses with compression fittings, about 14mm. Take the eom cooler in with you and they'll make them there. The problem I had with the first option was that I couldn't get the compression tight enough onto the olives. The second option cost me £20 and involved the hoses you see with hose clips tightly on the cut metal pipes. Need to heat the hoses on boiling water and run Vaseline on the metal pipes. It's tough but it works, 125 miles and still holding...
 

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Seriously, I would not risk having the hose on the straight cut pipe. They do come off eventually as my son found out to his cost when he did a temporary repair by looping a pipe around. It lasted for months over the winter then came off luckily at low speed. It makes a massive mess when it happens believe me and could be very expensive if the road has to be cleaned for safety reasons.......
 

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Mmmm not sure I like the look of that either.
I think I'm going to go for the alfaholics pipes. The radiator only cost me 30, so the overall cost will come in close enough to the other option.
Thanks all for input, I guess there are a lot of us needing this doing sooner rather than later at the moment...
 

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Mmmm not sure I like the look of that either.
I think I'm going to go for the alfaholics pipes. The radiator only cost me 30, so the overall cost will come in close enough to the other option.
Thanks all for input, I guess there are a lot of us needing this doing sooner rather than later at the moment...
I've done three already. Those pipes are very difficult to get at behind the engine even on a lift. Best of luck with it. Let us know how you get on:)
 

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The Alfaworkshop guide makes it look not too much of a ball ache - but then it won't actually be me doing it.......
 

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The Alfaworkshop guide makes it look not too much of a ball ache - but then it won't actually be me doing it.......
You didn't say that before:lol: Could be tricky getting a firm quote on it though from a workshop or it's if someone you know you might lose a mate!
quote Alfa Workshop "Undo oil feed pipe to oil cooler above oil filter, you need a stumpy 22 mm spanner and it is extremely hard to undo"
 

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Can confirm as new owner of dva's V6 that this did in fact come off eventually and it made a very big mess all over the exhaust and rear sub-frame.
Oh dear :furious:

I have the Autolusso Mocal conversion and its been fine for 2 years.

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