[Jamhot77]

Right thanks to DanChan I have contacted the person in Italy who makes and sells the chrome intake.

Individually he charges 135 euros including postage per item. I have asked for a price on 5 of them being made and posted to the UK and he has confirmed a price of 96 euros.

So two more people who want one will be first come first serve (post on the thread if you want 1):

1) jamhot77
2) AYAT
3) AYAT x2
4)
5)

If we get more then it'll be bigger discount due to postage costs from Italy.

 

[Henry8601]

If you can get enough of these (10 - 15?) to get the price down to ~ 75 euros (or close to it) then I would definitely have one. Did you ask for a price on greater numbers?

 

[Joss]

Are there any pictures of this?

 

[Jamhot77]

Are there any pictures of this?

Nicked this picture from somewhere else on the forum.

 

[fewleh]

Is there any benefit other than it looking nice?

 

[Joss]

Is there any benefit other than it looking nice?

yep. Will sound nice as it gets rid of the resonator

 

[JR Racing]

If you want to lose 4 ft lb of torque yes.

Have tried all this on the rollers, the elimination of the helmholtz chambers lost 4 lb torque between 2-3K rpm although you gain 0.5bhp top end.

This is why I always turn my nose up a bit when people bin the stock intake system.

The way forward is to redesign the intake tract but still incorporate the hemlholtz chambers , however for pure bli..bl..bl..bliiiing that looks quite cool.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

If you want to lose 4 ft lb of torque yes.

Have tried all this on the rollers, the elimination of the helmholtz chambers lost 4 lb torque between 2-3K rpm although you gain 0.5bhp top end.

This is why I always turn my nose up a bit when people bin the stock intake system.

The way forward is to redesign the intake tract but still incorporate the hemlholtz chambers , however for pure bli..bl..bl..bliiiing that looks quite cool.

So, to sum up...

£90 to lose 4lb of torque... But it looks pretty.

I'll give it a miss

 

[JR Racing]

Just to clear up we did not test this pipe but a pipe of the same principle. i.e. a straight through pipe removing the chambers between throttle body and MAF, the one we tested was a silicone solution which had a marginally larger bore than stock, apart from this as per stock minus chambers.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Just to clear up we did not test this pipe but a pipe of the same principle. i.e. a straight through pipe removing the chambers between throttle body and MAF, the one we tested was a silicone solution which had a marginally larger bore than stock, apart from this as per stock minus chambers.

I have the Auto Delta one, is that a rubbish one too?

 

[black cat]

If you want to lose 4 ft lb of torque yes.

Have tried all this on the rollers, the elimination of the helmholtz chambers lost 4 lb torque between 2-3K rpm although you gain 0.5bhp top end.

This is why I always turn my nose up a bit when people bin the stock intake system.

The way forward is to redesign the intake tract but still incorporate the hemlholtz chambers , however for pure bli..bl..bl..bliiiing that looks quite cool.

So you are saying that Jano at Autodelta does'nt know what he is doing !

 

[black cat]

What about the clown who made up one long silicon hose and claimed a gain of about 16 bhp

 

[JR Racing]

So you are saying that Jano at Autodelta does'nt know what he is doing !

No what I am stating are facts. I've nothing against any tuning company without evidence as I'm not a business and completely unbiased, I'm just an enthusiast who wants the best solution for my needs whilst not throwing any money away. We had use of an R/R for the day so this was just said for the financial benefit of people on here.

At an induction development day 3 years ago we tried a number of solutions inlcuding the "one peice silicone one" with cone on the end, generic silicone pipe cut to fit and a carbon pipe although I am not sure who made the carbon one from memory.

From what I saw of Jano's intake system - The pipe and filter combined added 2bhp and lost torque at the same rate as discussed. The pipe on it's own made 0.5bhp just like the silicone.

I'm not saying anything more about Autodelta, what I am saying is this. On replacement of the Oe piping from AFM to throttle body we saw a drop in torque most noticably between 2-3K rpms. This was all conducted on the same test car - a 147 GTA.

Both the carbon pipe and silicone pipe mirrored each other - losing torque and gaining power within 50rpm's of each other to an almost scarily similar pattern.

Believe it or not the large 'clown' silicone hose gained 8bhp on the same day (far more than anything else we tried) but still lost torque in the same areas low down as the silicone / carbon pipes.

I will try to scan the graphs in but they are on an old pc - will talk to my friend who helped on the day and see if he can post them up.

 

[Jamhot77]

If anyones interesred 85 euro if 10 orders.....that is looking unlikely at present

 

[PANIC]

Ive got one. Very nice but by god they make a great heat sink!!!

 

[Henry8601]

What are they made from? Steel? I would want to put a BMC CDA on the end of it - would that fit?

 

[Jamhot77]

It will fit Ive been told, I already have Cda fitted so just swapping the middle section is the plan

 

[Emanuel]

Stainless intake

Ive got one. Very nice but by god they make a great heat sink!!!

I ceramic coated the inside of mine, definately helped with the heat, and supposed to keep the air inside cooler......not sure if it actaully does.

 

[Chrisv6]

I debaffled stock pipe using resin etc. I can confirm without any rollers. I have lost quite lot Nm's. I've noticed this straight away.

Yes it does look nice (I have used silver metallic paint) and intake sound is nicer but you will waste significant amount of torque + this metal thing might heat up much more than plastic. So it might be even worse.

Just wanted to share my thoughts.

 

[V6_TOM]

This is the original thread about this mod and he gained a nice bit of power/throttle response

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-gta/172481-my-156-gta-dyno-results.html

...and besides, look how cool it looks

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL97/.../372127302.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL97/.../372127310.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL97/.../372127316.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL97/.../372127318.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL97/.../372127326.jpg