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Hi guys just been to look at an'08 GT but on the test drive i noticed the bite point was pretty high, mentioned it to the dealer and he said it had had a new clutch 5000 miles ago.
Now i haven't had a hydraulic clutch for many years so wasn't sure if this was normal on these GT's or whether the dealers full of bull and the clutch has had it :(

Said i'd ring him back tomorrow with my decision to buy or not.

I've search on here and a found a few thread some say it normal to have a high bite some says its worn out so i'm a touch confused :thinking:

So any advice would be most appreciated :)

Thanks
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Thanks, i was afraid of that :(
Everything runs like it should, gear change is good. Just bite point is a bit high.
Price on the car is decent, so now need to decide if it's worth going for it and factor in a clutch in a couple months i suppose.
 

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Thanks, i was afraid of that :(
Everything runs like it should, gear change is good. Just bite point is a bit high.
Price on the car is decent, so now need to decide if it's worth going for it and factor in a clutch in a couple months i suppose.
If its garage get some proof that its only done 5000.
Doesnt sound like it get 400 off the price and if the car is ok , sounds good.
 

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Thanks, i'll definitely be checking for paperwork on the clutch replacement. Sadly it's not so much a garage just a small trader & from what i saw he's got no mechanic or facilities. Though normally he'd be a bit stupid to state it has a new(ish) clutch if he couldn't back it up with evidence but with these traders you never really know :(

It really doesn't feel like an old worn out clutch, no slippage, crisp changes but just that high bite point makes me worried :( I was hoping it was just a characteristic of the GT :(

Sadly i seriously doubt he's going to knock £400 off, the car is only £1895 now, but i'd rather not have to front up another £5-600 again in a month or two.
 

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As stated by Alfapat, if he is confident enough to say what has been done, he must be able to prove it. It is entirely reasonable for a prospective buyer to ask for proof of history. It's not a case of disbelief, it is simply wanting to verify a claim. No doubt you'd be reasonable to want to look into service history.

Why can't people make a clutch last at least 200k?

Anyway, do and online MOT history check with the reg plate;
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.170120163.215596493.1504187229-1494049394.1504097894

Finally they seem to fare better when specialist serviced and repaired when compared to mainstream.
 

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Like others have said,ask for paperwork,although it can be fake anyways.
Wonder if he lies about that,what else is there to fear?
If you really like the car,try to get some hundreds off the price,to put towards a new clutch.

Make sure you double check everything,buttons/functions,and if you can pay attention to the suspension, that's the only thing that was wrong with my 147 when I bought it,and boy,it cost me.
Also,ask when the belt and glow plugs were replaced,he might not know it,but you can haggle for it.
Keep us informed!
 

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Yep a 200k mile clutch would be cool :)
Checked the mot history before i went to view, nothing untoward on there thankfully.
Unfortunately the trader is at least an hour away, so it's difficult to just pop over to view the paperwork :( like a total idiot i didn't check the paperwork out when i was there just the car itself :(

He's apparently go someone else coming to view tomorrow evening (pinch of salt on that one) but you never really know, so got to decide to go or not based on the mot history & my test drive alone.

What isn't helping is the total lack of any other decent GT's in the area, it's this one or none for the foreseeable future :(
 

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Ask him early tomorrow to scan or send you a photo of paperwork. If you say you are seriously considering and able to make a near immediate offer (pending checking authenticity obviously), pay a deposit by phone to secure.

You get to check.
You pay deposit to secure.
 

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I've bought 2 cars by deposit. One was 2 weeks until collection, the other 1 week plus extra for meeting owner at a convenient location. The second one I paid upfront by Visa transfer so I had protection but I knew he was genuine and not a scammer. Obviously that probably isn't recommended but it proves there are honest people.

In any case, a deposit with paperwork stating conditions of balance and collection gives both parties protection.
 

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Thanks guys, i'll ask for scans/pics of the paperwork and go from there :)
I did have a fiddle with the buttons not sure what i was pressing though but A/C seems to work as does the heater, everything else feels very solid, suspension was sound & no leaks, had good look underneath with a torch and looks pretty clean. Drove really well for an 11 year old car.

I do have the option to pay the deposit by phone & the remaining balance on collection with a visa, which may be a good idea for the extra protection it offers :thinking:
 

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Definitely pay at least 100 pounds by credit card.
I don't know about the part saying he's got someone to come see/pick it up,may be true,but still,it remains irrelevant for you.
There are not many GT now because,let's be honest,normal general population is not too keen on Alfas from that era,and also not on any cars from that era,if I think about it.
If the clutch is too costly to replace if it will fail soon,maybe it would be a safer option to wait for another car to pop.
Bear in mind,with GTs you will have to pay more for a better example,or pay less and repair it if the previous owner did not.
Don't buy with your heart only,even if this is the main reason you buy an Alfa
 

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Well looks like that particular GT got sold so i never got any paperwork :(
Oh well the hunt for another begins....

Thanks for all the advice though :) i was very much appreciated.

Chris
 

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Found another one a little further but still roughly an hour or so drive, but it's cat d :(
No history on why the cat d, guy reckons he didn't know until it flagged it on the sales listing, i believe cat d's aren't on the logbook so it's plausible or could also be total bs.
He does reckon passenger side front light impact as the intercooler duct was damaged, and on the mot check there is front bumper damage listed, enough to fail the mot. I know it won't take much for an insurance co. to write off a 10/11 or 12 year old car. Without paper work it's a big risk though :( but it is reasonable priced too.
 

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Gt's are only a good price if its had full history or near as dammit , the first Gt you looked at should have had all that,at that price , including clean sills, really the only major thing wrong with them.
I picked mine up albeit with a few shades of Red (54 plate) and very bad sills , like two holes on both sides for nothing . It had no MOT , so getting it to say a welder or scrap would have cost the best part of £600 , would it then reflect the true price. Maybe give you an idea , love the car by the way , one of my most enjoyable.:rotate:
 

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This one's a £1000 guys states clean solids sills and hes had some work done, cambelt wheel bearing wishbones and stuff. He does state all the welds look factory. but only receipts/paperwork he claims he has is the stuff he's done, and then there's that cat d :(
At this age and value it could've been written off for something not too serious but it's not knowing is the kicker. But it's definitely had some decent front bumper damage at some point, as stated on an MOT.
 

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If the car is located not too far from a specialist, you could ask seller to take it there for them to look at. You pay for that and ask some pointed questions.

If it is cat D, I'm not sure if front cover of V5 has large information to that effect or not emblazoned on it which makes its history obvious.

As it is cat D, it could be the paintwork repair is lower quality or it may have some damaged fittings or missing parts. It may not but it is worth checking.
 

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Sadly there are no specialist any where near here that i'm award of. It does look pretty decent in the photos and they're pretty decent pics too, no obvious uneven panel gaps or misalignments. Guy reckons all welds are factory too.
This is my problem, cat d (now cat n apparently) doesn't go on the logbook, no record in dvla.
It's all pointing to a bumper replacement, which given the cost of a new bumper and spraying etc could easily cost enough to cause an insurance company to write off an aging car, but without any documentation it's all speculation.
The current owner seems to have spent some cash on it ( cambelt, wishbone a few other bits ) so it can't be a wreck at least.
My insurance company really couldn't care less about the cat d, they say as long as its road safe and has an mot it fine with them.
I just have to decide if its worth the 3 hour round trip to go check kit out and a possible gamble a grand on it.
 
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