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Hi all,

My car (2004 GT 2.0) is in for its service today. This morning they are doing the cam belt/tensioners (required) and variator (precautionary) and this afternoon the 72k service.

Apart from the normal stuff can you think of anything else that should be addressed? Car has done 6k miles since 60k service a year ago.

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Just spoke to the garage (AHM, recommended on this forum) and he says that it doesn't need doing. Thanks for your suggestion though.
 

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Hmm, don't know, only had the car a week. How long do they last?
Waterpumps are quite good on the TS and JTS engines, but like all things they can go wrong and they do wear out eventually (the bearings wear out). When this happens it can destroy the belt and engine, at best you'd need to do the belts again as they must come off before changing waterpump.

Best advice is to change pump now at 72,000 miles, not much extra labour to do this as the belts are off anyway. Take the opportunity to change the coolant as well, request a 50/50 mix as the cold weather is rumoured to return next week.

Hope that helps.
 

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Just spoke to the garage (AHM, recommended on this forum) and he says that it doesn't need doing. Thanks for your suggestion though.
Surprised at that, they should know better. Generally a good idea to change it every 72,000 miles as they do wear out and there are reports on here of them going, leading to cambelt/engine damage.

For the small outlay involved, worth doing for peace of mind imho. And the coolant needs changing every 2 years anyway, so why not do it now?
 
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id get the waterpump done at 72k my 156 JTS water pump was practically toast.
 

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He says that he's only seen a couple of failures since 2004 and the risk is very small.
And the work's now been done!
I'm going to trust his judgement on this, but thanks for your replies.

Any other service items?
 

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My TS water pump lasted 138K .... then started to leak. The bearing was fine .. the seal failed.

Still you can get it done next time ;) .. every 36K or 3 years now for belt replacements.
 

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No nonono!! I'd say definately get the water pump changed mate, to change the water pump the timing belt has to come off anyway so for an extra 50 quid or so you may as well get it changed, at least then you will have piece of mind.

And also, you can't tell if the water pump is OK by looking at it because its the bearings inside that seize up, definately get it changed buddy :)

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Problem with these components is that age is as much a factor as mileage covered.

Anyway good luck with it, personally I would have changed it for the sake of £40 odd for the waterpump.
Thanks Spider95, I probably would have if I'd thought of it (or asked!) earlier but I'm not going to fret.
 

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Sorry, just seen that work has already been done. I know that you're not usually meant to put a belt back on after its been taken off but as it's only just been put on you might be okay. There is a company in birmingham called Motor-Mech, I've not used him but I had a recommendation from somebody on the board and he highly recommended him.

However I phoned him and asked about changing the water pump on a GT I was going to buy that had just had the cam belt replaced and he quoted £130, which I think is fairly reasonable considering the timing belt and tensioner has to come off etc, and that includes the part aswell.

Also, I don't actually have my dream GT yet, I've just learned this from the forum over the last week (Cheers Guy's!) :D


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No nonono!! I'd say definately get the water pump changed mate, to change the water pump the timing belt has to come off anyway so for an extra 50 quid or so you may as well get it changed, at least then you will have piece of mind.

And also, you can't tell if the water pump is OK by looking at it because its the bearings inside that seize up, definately get it changed buddy :)

Lee
Belt's already been done (#9), c'est la vie.
 

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Sorry, just seen that work has already been done. I know that you're not usually meant to put a belt back on after its been taken off but as it's only just been put on you might be okay. There is a company in birmingham called Motor-Mech, I've not used him but I had a recommendation from somebody on the board and he highly recommended him.

However I phoned him and asked about changing the water pump on a GT I was going to buy that had just had the cam belt replaced and he quoted £130, which I think is fairly reasonable considering the timing belt and tensioner has to come off etc, and that includes the part aswell.

Also, I don't actually have my dream GT yet, I've just learned this from the forum over the last week (Cheers Guy's!) :D


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Belt's already been done (#9), c'est la vie.
Yeah sorry mate, I noticed in my last post :)
 

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No nonono!! I'd say definately get the water pump changed mate, to change the water pump the timing belt has to come off anyway so for an extra 50 quid or so you may as well get it changed, at least then you will have piece of mind.

And also, you can't tell if the water pump is OK by looking at it because its the bearings inside that seize up, definately get it changed buddy :)

Lee
Couldn't agree more. Although I agree to a large extent with the specialists view on this, it is wise to change the waterpump every 72,000 miles (second belt change) just in case.

Since the specialist won't make much money on this (you can't mark up a waterpump that much when it's only £30 odd trade, and the max you can charge is half hour labour), I would hazard a guess and say that the specialist simply couldn't be bothered changing it. Not worth it for the bottom line in the P&L account, and of course if the pump does go (more chance as well with a re-tensioned and new belt putting more work on the pump), I rather doubt his 'better judgement' will pay for the ensuing bill.

Nice work if you can get it guv:lol:
 
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