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Hi all,
new here tonight and in a spot of bother. Has anyone any ideas of worst and best case scenarios regarding the cost of a failed cam belt on a v plate 156 t spark. Everyone i have spoke to has just done that plumber type thing and drawn breath between their teeth and pointed towards the scrap yard. The worst thing is i was going to part chop it only three weeks ago:cry:
Anyway, all advice would be appreciated as i realy don't have a clue what to do for the best.
Thanks JB
 

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The first thing you need to do is get it to a reputable garage and have it looked at.
 

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My local specialist quoted me £600 just to take my gearbox out and take it to bits to fit a new syncro sleeve so I expect (depending on damage) a thrown cambelt could cost maybe double that to fix. Is the car in good condition?
 

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A quick Google search found these guys;

Alfatecnico Ltd, Unit 4 Rington Court, Nunn Brook Rise, Huthwaite, Nottinghamshire, NG17 2PD. Tel: 01623 510570
 

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Hi GD, yes , the 156 is in a good condition inside and out especially considdering the reg. The body work has realy suprised me , not a bubble or blemmish anywhere. I bought it five years ago with fairly high mileage knowing that when i was ready to change cars it would be below average.
 
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Sorry, but even best case scenario is pretty bad,costs can easily run to 4 figures I'm afraid. If your car is a really nice one you might still get around £500 for it as it is, if you choose to get rid. Either way it has cost you alot of money. Do what Roswell said with the garage then come back on the forum with the update. Everyone on here will give you all the advice they can.
Best of luck.
 

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Worst case New or recon engine

Best CAse New belts n it runs fine.......



Numerous permutaions in between.

What speed n revs were you doing when it went?

Also TS are supposed to get belt change more frequntly than V6. (every 36k) Yours had a high mileage when you got it,How high?..Original belt?
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Hi Pomeo,
The belt snapped at a standstill, however more worrying i think is that there was a knocking noise from the engine during my ten mile trip to work. Left work and got about a mile before the big snap. Without digging up the paperwork I think it had mid 40's when i baught it, at two years old ish, and i have done about 8k per year since.
 

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Hi AF, If i did decide not to repair the 156 what would be the best course of action to realise as much cash from my crippled alfa.
 

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If you have another car in mind you might try to get the best price without P/X, could be almost the same as if you put the Alfa in. It would have been very easy to give your car away.
You might sell it on this site, or ebay.
Probably not worth you paying to have it repaired, and getting future problems.
 
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Keith is right .I just looked on e bay and there have been several non runners sold recently ranging from 420 to 720,so look to get between these figures at least.Not many remain unsold by the look of it.
 

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Many thanks to everyone who has chipped in tonight, all replies much appreciated and any more would be great. Going to hit the pit now .

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Hi Pomeo,
The belt snapped at a standstill, however more worrying i think is that there was a knocking noise from the engine during my ten mile trip to work. Left work and got about a mile before the big snap. Without digging up the paperwork I think it had mid 40's when i baught it, at two years old ish, and i have done about 8k per year since.
I would reckon its the original belt on it.Original service interval when you got the car was 72 thousand...only recently they have reduced it to 36k.....You have done well with it. The knocking noise may have been the tensioner destroying itself. But I dont know much about the TS as it is a completely different beastie to the V6 which Ive got.

Mine snapped at 86k (original belt) quoted 2.5K by dealer to do job correctly.Got a guy to help me stick a belt on it as I never herad any noise and was going slow when it failed.Turned over numerous time by me and green flag mecahnic who was sent to assist.(This alone is meant to cause serious damage)

New belt sorted it all. Fitted tensioner too.Heads never came off and runs like a dream 11 thousand miles later.

OK its a gamble but these guys that buy the non runners are going to see if they get away with just sticking a new belt on.

Whatever you do the car is worth more in bits..Its just the inconvenience of stripping it and selling them.

pomeo.
 

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morning everyone.

Pomeo. Is it possible that by just fitting a new belt my car may run again, even if it only gets me to the nearest auction house. Seems to me that you were very lucky with your snapper. Anyway I am off to the local garage where it is sat at the moment to tell them to try a new belt. Suppose thats goin to be a couple of hundred quid by the time they have done, but you never know.
 

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Jayne, I'm also not an expert on Alfa's, but got a feeling that the Twin Sparks have a clearance, or something, piston to valves, type engine. Without wishing to be too despondent, think herein lies the problem. Not sure about the other power units. The guy's will be here that know I'm sure. Best Wisheszf
 

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Jayne - I am afraid it is a certainty that some, if not all, the valves are bent - there is no clearance. The engine speed when failure occurs is also irrelevant I am afraid - the valves get buggered at the slowest speed.

Don't waste a few hundred on replacing the belt alone - it won't work.

Sorry to seem all doom and gloom but I wouldn't want you to have false hope.

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Agree with Paul, don't spend on it. If it is a small garage would they buy it? If trade value is £2500, £500 would leave £2000 to repair ti. An employee might have a go?
At the mileage you will find other problems arising when the engine is replaced.
 

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Sorry Jayne but there's no way you're going to get away with just fitting a new belt.

There's also no point in us trying to guess how much it's going to cost to fix it. Only the garage can tell you that.

Good luck.
 

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Thanks all. the garage is going to have a look this week, assess the damage and then i will make a decission. I dont hold out much hope but i will sleep better if i know it is going to be scrapped with £2000 worth of damage opposed to £500. I will let you know. In the mean time, Alfa 156 in Africa grey metalic, breaking for...................
 

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Well I hate to be different from ereryone else.


Alfa Dealer quoted £2500 to do job properly. The car only cost me that. Leather Sat neav the works.

I and a friend put a new belt on ..It worked fine no noises no difference from before.CAr had been turned over numerous times.

My philosophy was you cannot break a boken window....Its already broken.


Yours is the same I was travelling about 5 MPH when it went.
The tensioner was the EGG the belt the Chicken.

Its your decison Jayneb .

Pomeo
 
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