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Hey!

I already made a thread about this topic but I'm still not convinced how to think about this issue...

In short: In the first three gears in the D-mode the turbo-diagramm just goes up to 4 lines. There is no difference between low rpm or high rpm, it just goes up to maximum 4 lines. In the higher gears (4,5,6) all lines are full.

Does anybody have the same engine as me (Euro6!!!) and could confirm that this is normal? I heard from my mechanic that it is, but I'm not so sure...

Maybe someone could help.
 

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Don't wanna annoy you people, but if anyone has the same engine as me (Euro6 of course), just let me know.

Merry Christmas!:angel:
 

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Isn't there a torque limiter that restricts boost in the first 3 gears? Might be that.
 

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Ok, last time: Has anyone the same engine as me?
Do you not have a dealer close by for you to go out on a test drive in another car? Maybe even look in the ads for nearly new ones for sale in your reasonable vicinity, and go there for a test drive?

A bit of a long shot, you've probably considered that!

Another suggestion would be to sift through the youtube videos of the 1.4 TB to look for a newish one, and then post a comment to ask.

Or even request one of the car walkaround vbloggers to do a walkaround on the Giulietta and show that!

There clearly seems to be a lack of the newer 1.4 TBs on here.
 

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The 1.4 TB is more of a price-point model in this country, to get people into the dealers showroom . They then get tempted up the range , especially the kind of people who are into their cars. The last post had some good suggestions to get around this.
 

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The 1.4 TB is more of a price-point model in this country, to get people into the dealers showroom . They then get tempted up the range , especially the kind of people who are into their cars. The last post had some good suggestions to get around this.
The torque limiting factor could be a reason as I believe the gearboxes are a bit on the weak side...

Pretty sure a remap could fix it if you want to.
 

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Interesting! But unfortunately I don't speak italian:disappointed:

Do these guys have the same issue?

I have included this link in the Italian forum to let all 120 hp models be "castrated" originally, and they have the same defect.
Same arguments. Engine to Avoid!
 

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Interesting! But unfortunately I don't speak italian:disappointed:

Do these guys have the same issue?
Short summary if I understood correctly. Yes, they have the same issue.

Allegedly the Euro 6 1.4T Non MA, does not produce full engine power until 4th gear (castrated is a good term).
FCA don't care, Italian customers super unhappy.

My view, I'd love to see a dyno run in each gear to know what is really going on but if it is true it's a crap way to meet Euro 6 and to treat customers.
And I am surprised it is not in the court system for resolution.
 

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I wouldn't know on which basis one would litigate?!?

Comparison of the 2016 Super versions
non MA 120HP, combined consumption 6,2L euro class D €23750
w/ MA 150HP, combined consumption 5,5L euro class B €24250

If one insists on saving €1500 for higher fuel consumption and less power, it is only fair to be punished with the less power not even being available in lower gears.
 
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