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Hi, I was just wondering if there is any way of getting a second key programed without the red master key? I havent long brought my alfa but I only have the one key and would ideally like a spare.
 

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It has been a while but:
Alfa 156 DO NOT HAVE THE MASTER KEY SYSTEM...
 

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Oh right my mistake, does this mean that getting a spare key programed wont be an issue? and is it a main dealer only job? Thanks
 

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New key will come from Italy via main dealer, coding can be done by anyone with 'examiner' software, so an independent specialist, who should be cheaper than a main dealer, should be able to do it.
 

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Oh right my mistake, does this mean that getting a spare key programed wont be an issue? and is it a main dealer only job? Thanks
Unfortunately it won't be cheap.
The procedure is as mentioned above.

The old Code1 Master Key system (145/146/155/GTV/etc) keys can easily be copied by most high street auto key cutters now at very low cost, so a missing master key isn't the issue it once was for those.

But a fully functional Code 2 key can still only be got from Alfa.
 

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Most locksmiths or shops that cut car keys, such as Timsons on the high street, can clone coded keys. Unless you take your own Alfa blank they will usually only have Fiat blanks with a blue top but they work the same. Your ordinary key is all you need not the a master key of any kind. In fact on models where they are used I've never met anyone who has had to use the master key to re programme the car. I suppose someone must have done at some time.:lol:
 
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you will also need the 'Code Card' which is approx £30, this card has the mechanical & electrconic codes specific to your car.
 

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you will also need the 'Code Card' which is approx £30, this card has the mechanical & electrconic codes specific to your car.
They only needed a working key when ours was done. I think the Card only comes into play if you have no key to clone. I might be wrong.
 

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Is yours a "Code 2"?
No idea David, it was a PH 2 GTV not a 156. The locksmith who did it actually said that Alfas and Fiats were no longer a problem with regard to keys and programming. I got the impression that things have moved on from a few years ago when keys were causing so much trouble.
 

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No idea David, it was a PH 2 GTV not a 156. The locksmith who did it actually said that Alfas and Fiats were no longer a problem with regard to keys and programming. I got the impression that things have moved on from a few years ago when keys were causing so much trouble.
That will be "Code 1", so simple cloning works fine.
 

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pardon my ignorance but what is the differences between code 1 and code 2, what makes them so difficult to copy? and would it be the same problem if i ever wanted to copy the key for my 2005 147?
 

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General question. My beloved 1998 GTV 3.0 which was purchased new was written off in a car accident and has now gone to the Alfa garage in the sky! I still have all the keys (including valet and master key). :)

I am looking at purchasing a replacement GTV however owner only has one key. I know that I can clone the only key the current owner has so that I have a backup key, however, is it possible to reprogramme an ECU back to its virgin state, insert my old master key into the replacement GTV, thereby being the first key used and (subject to changing locks on door and ignition) have my old set of keys operate on the replacement GTV?

I have not seen this question raised in any of the threads or other forums.
 
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