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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
hello all, just bought some oil for the gearbox as I think it needs topped up (notchy when cold, notchy when hot etc).
my question is.........Is the filler hole, the large allen key bolt at the front of the box ????
it's a 1.8 litre 8 valve.
Don't want to remove it if it's wrong 'cos it looks a bit tricky to get to.

Marlon
 

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The one about half way up the side of the box, facing the front of the car? Thats the one on my 2.0 8v. I keep topping the oil up as there is a slight leak from the selector cover, although not enough to bother taking the whole car apart to fix. It does smooth out the notchy feel a little when the oil is topped up but I think in my case its a worn box and the syncro is starting to slowly go.
 
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cheers chris
i noticed a bit of old oil on the underside of the box aswell. it doesn't drip onto the road, so like you say, it's not worth pulling everything apart at the moment.

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THAT IS A FREE OPTIONAL THAT ALFA INCLUDES IN ALL MODELS.
IT´S NORMAL.
JORGE frown
 
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Today I put oil in the gearbox. Needed to buy a 12mm allen key fitment for my ratchet. This post is really to warn everybody.
My car has a full service history from Alfa (first 3 years) and then from an Alfa "specialist". I needed to put nearly 1 litre of oil into the box !!!!!
Given that the capacity of the box is 2 litres, I would suggest that the oil level has not been checked/topped up when the car has been serviced.
It took me ages to loosen the filler bolt on the box, it felt like it hadn't been removed for a while (if at all !!!). The car was serviced last December (before I bought it), so be wary.
It won't effect new or low mileage cars, but seeing as our Alfas can be 10 years old with high mileage, the gearbox will suffer. Topping up gearbox oil is something most car owners will never do 'cos they don't know it needs to be done.

The point is.....check your gearbox oil level and top it up.

Marlon
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Marlon
This is going to sound stupid.... How do you know how much oil? I guess you just fill until it pours out the fill hole...

Could you be a bit more specific on the location of the fill hole?

Andy
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Hi

What Hole wink He he..

Well if you stand in front of your car, the end with the white plate.... look down to your right... it should be located on the front of the gearbox..

Niels
 
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Hi andy, you put oil in until it starts to overflow out the hole. You need the car to be on level ground. The location of the "hole"......looking at the car from the front, the gearbox is on your right, if you look at the front of the box from underneath the car, you will see an Allen Key bolt about half way up the face of the box. There is a bolt at the bottom of the box which you use to drain the oil if you want.

Hope this is clear

Marlon
 
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Marlon, I think you are totally correct to assume that the Agents never check the oil levels of the gearboxes. I don't even think they replace the gearbox oil at the recommended intervals.
My brother had a bad experience with an oldish Mercedes 280 E A/T: He bought is last year with full service history from the agents. A while later the auto box packed up and cost him a full rebuild. Not cheap I might add.

Has anybody here tried synthetic gearbox oils? Does it make the changes a bit slicker?

Jacques
 
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I've heard of people putting additives in their gearboxes, think "Slick 50" (?) do one, supposed to improve it. Not tried it myself but the V6 change is worse than my 1.8 so might look at the levels soon.

wrinx
 
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i just put semi-synthetic oil in the box. the gear change is smoother, but then, it was low on oil before so i've nothing to compare it with.

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Marlon,

Fingers crossed that the box hangs on to all that lovley oil! Keep looking underneath to check, especially after a long hard drive.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Funny you should say that Chris. The next day after blasting home, the car dumped gearbox oil on my drive :(
It's going in on Thursday to hopefully be fixed.
The oil has been coming out onto the drive shaft and spraying everywhere.....all over the wheel and Brake Disc eek!
Need to get it steam cleaned aswell so I don't get that smell of pissy oil !!!

Marlon
 
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Didn't get my oil leak fixed today....the car didn't need it. After I noticed the leak, I got the ratchet and spanners out and tightened all the bolts (the ones I could see) around the side of the box. Some one turn others half. I was wary about snapping them but some seemed a bit loose.

Anyway, no more oil came out, so now I just have to clean all the oil off the bottom of the gearbox and driveshaft :(

Anybody know the best way to clean oil off without spending loads of dosh or using too much elbow grease ?????

Marlon
 
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GUNK, dunno how much it is tho, sposed to be great at degreasing. Must be cheaper versions if its expensive eek!

Failing that, elbow grease and washing up liquid :D ........very cheap;)

wrinx
 
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gunk is great but even cheaper mix a bit of brake fluid with some petrol and use a stiff brush to wipe it off STAY AWAY FROM THE PAINT WORK.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Service schedule only checks the oil level every 48,000 miles or 4 years. Guess it doesnt take much of a leak to lose a litre or so over that time.
I check mine once a year, but so far it hasn't needed a top up.
Mate of mine wrecked his gearbox due to that on his 2.0 8v. I think he's selling it now with a nearly new box in it, but it needs a bit of work elsewhere. eek!
 
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Thanks guys
Suppose I could borrow something from the lab where I work to clean up the oil.
Might dissolve my car though wink

Marlon
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
Hi all.

I have put AMSOIL full synthetic in my '93 2.0 gearbox. Brilliant! Nice and smooth. Have used this stuff in my Integrale, my previous 155, and my Delta Turbo.

Worth a look folks

Oliver
 
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