Yeah will never understand the mania for the shiny plasticky bits - to my eyes, it's as cheap as it gets, reminds me of these boy-racer style head units people put in Civics and Bravos in the 1990s.
A few days ago I was watching a review of the new Audi RS5, where they obviously compared it to the Quad for reference...and one of the things the journalist remarked was the "quality" of the plastics in the Audi being "superb", pointing to a shiny black console trim that looked like it came from a 1 Euro made-in-China toy :irked:
This article seems to suggest the Giorgio platform is being beefed up for the electric variants? Who knows!
Manley said Alfa’s Giorgio rear-wheel/all-wheel drive platform, which underpins the Giulia and Stelvio, has been given a "significant" upgrade so it can be used for full-electric and plug-in hybrid variants.
Just read that Cue2. If it indeed happens and they "beef" up the Giorgio platform depending on what that involves, it may mean we could lose some of the lightness of the chassis and agility we have currently if they continue to build the Giulia and Stelvio on it of course. Ultimately we are all guessing and knowing how slow Alfa are we may as well enjoy what is on offer now.
I thought they were ditching the black plastic wheel arch mouldings on the Stelvio ?
Overall, its a pathetic underwhelming effort. They took Giulia from design to production ready in 2 years, but in 4 years they fit a new bit of plastic to the transmission tunnel, add some tat to the steering wheel, and a new gear knob. I could have done that in a day outside Halfords. Manley says Giorgio hasn't performed well. He's wrong. Its the total and complete ineptitude of Alfa Romeo's management that has performed dismally. Slashing dealers, refusing genuine warranty claims, terrible marketing and in company politics (remember Ferrari's problems, both race and road car, in the 80's and 90's ? Evident once again in todays race team) Alfa Romeo has peaked. In 5 years time you will be listening to twits in pubs boasting about their brilliant new Alfa Sud, which is actually a Peugeot 208 with a different grille. R.I.P.
Heh, I do hope not, and Alfa's demise has been predicted many times since the 1970s, but knowing how Peugeot treated the mighty Citroen, most likely it'll be a cheap remake of the 208 with an ugly grille and seats made out of old socks.
So does this mean that anyone who has or is waiting for a MY2019 Giulia should not worry as the changes are minimal. I can see a few owners upgrading their display and head unit to MY2020 in the future to get the latest features.
If Infotainment is not the main focus in buying a Giulia changes are minimal.
The new system is definitely no only a step but a jump forward and I doubt, it can be retrofitted as it has much deeper integration into the car-system and is from a different manufacturer (Harman instead auf Magneti Marelli)
The biggest changes are indeed Infotainment and ADAS, interior changes are minimal.
But Hugh Myles is right when he says that it is a pathetic underwhelming effort if you consider that in 2 years time they've made Giulia basically from scratch and then in 3-4 years time this is all they have to show for.
Even with the new Infotainemnt (which seems to be a big step up), their equipment levels, features and tech is still stuck in 2016. They are still missing important features that competition introduced years ago.
No one is expecting Alfa to be class leader in features and tech; but if they want to stay relevant they have to at least be able to catch up in 3-4 years, but they failed miserably to do so.
If this is their best answer to massive sales decline, the future is very dimm.
While I am not bothered by either the infotainment or the new tech, the competition have stepped up their game quite a bit. Even lesser cars like Hyundai, Ford etc. have. In the same segment, the Jag XE for example now looks meaner with the LED headlights, interior has been substantially updated new instrument cluster, infotainment, displays and new tech. I can do more using aftermarket accessories than Alfa have done. I don't get it. Like Hugh said earlier, it is not the Giorgio platform but the disjointed dealership experience, the way warranty claims are being dealt with and the general lack of marketing that is dragging the platform down. There is no excuse for incompetence and omnishambles.
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replaced 2x injections (2 and 4)
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So I've just taken delivery of a Guilia 2.0tb Nero Edizione with the plain diffuser but two exhaust tips.
Does anyone know whether the plain diffuser can be replaced with the Speciale/Sport diffuser? I've seen posts suggesting that the Speciale has a different bumper and that the diffuser...
I haven't driven the Giulia for a week so I thought I'll go to the supermarket in it tonight. When I got in and started the car I find the red handbrake symbol flashing and a yellow symbol on the bottom middle of the dash. The handbrake definately disengages when I pull off in D or R, but I...
As the other thread was getting a bit long, here a condensed version ;)
Remark: Updated version from original, date 14 March 2020
Information on updating maps and software for Giulia/stelvio infotainment system
Note that systems and software are same for giulia and stelvio, so same...
I'm interested in potentially purchasing a 2019 TI LUSSO AWD. See window sticker attached.
It seems to perfectly blend looks, driving dynamics, fuel economy, and luxury. I intend on test this one driving tomorrow.
Dealer Asking Price is $32,376
Now, I'm very new to Alfa Romeo...