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Would one of you kind people please help me out on a couple of questions.


I'm looking for a 156 2.4 JTD and have seen a few contenders... but I am getting a little confused by the differing reports on power and the number of valves.

I know there are 10v and 20v versions, but I see reports that claim 136, 140, 150 and 175bhp...

So what I would like to know is this... How do I tell which is which, what models/years will have which engines.


Ideally I'm looking for a 20v JTD, but not sure if I can afford one in my current budget of £1500-2000, especially as I'd like to get a little in reserve to fix any immediate niggles or get it serviced and so forth.


All knowledge and advice gratefully received and stored in my huge noggin for later reference. :)
 

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Would one of you kind people please help me out on a couple of questions.


I'm looking for a 156 2.4 JTD and have seen a few contenders... but I am getting a little confused by the differing reports on power and the number of valves.

I know there are 10v and 20v versions, but I see reports that claim 136, 140, 150 and 175bhp...

So what I would like to know is this... How do I tell which is which, what models/years will have which engines.
175hp is the 20v, which arrived during 2002
The 136/140/150 are all 10v. The 150hp 10v being replaced by the 175 20v in mid/late 2002.

The engine code on the VIN plate is the safest way of confirming type.
I've quoted the engine codes on here many times, so a search should find something!
 

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Cheers David, found the info I needed... 841C000 for the 150 and 841G000 for the 175.

Aside from the vin plate, is the engine number easily accessible to view on the engine itself? I wouldn't want to buy one thinking it was a 175 only to find it's had an engine swap.
 

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Cheers David, found the info I needed... 841C000 for the 150 and 841G000 for the 175.

Aside from the vin plate, is the engine number easily accessible to view on the engine itself? I wouldn't want to buy one thinking it was a 175 only to find it's had an engine swap.

The 175 has a facelift exterior ... it should be pretty noticable
 

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The 175 has a facelift exterior ... it should be pretty noticable
Apparently there are 2002 spec 20v JTD, so not all are facelift.
But the 2002 spec interior facelift started with 140hp 16v & 150hp 10v.
 

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Don't think so the 20v arrived late 2003 correct me if I am wrong
You may be correct.
I knew there was a weird overlap in 2002 when there was there was the new 16v 140hp and the old 10v 150hp at the same time.
AutoData has the 20v as arriving in 2003, there was a thread about the arrival dates of the 20v a while ago but I can't remember the outcome.
 

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Wasn't there an 8v 1.9 JTD face-lift as well for a brief period of time? Apologies, if my memory is faulty but I'm sure I looked at an advert for one that confused me.

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Wasn't there an 8v 1.9 JTD face-lift as well for a brief period of time? Apologies, if my memory is faulty but I'm sure I looked at an advert for one that confused me.
Yes you could still get an 8v 1.9JTD facelift 156, it carried on to the 159 too.
 

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156 2.4JTD Engine Codes (as on the VIN Plate) starting from the earliest:

10v
32501 = 136hp
839A6000 = 140hp
841C000 = 150hp

20v (from 2003)
841G000 = 175hp
841M000 = 163hp
 

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You may be correct.
I knew there was a weird overlap in 2002 when there was there was the new 16v 140hp and the old 10v 150hp at the same time.
AutoData has the 20v as arriving in 2003, there was a thread about the arrival dates of the 20v a while ago but I can't remember the outcome.
The 2.4 20v arrived in october 2001 so my guru informs me:)
 

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Blimey, if you lot who already know these cars get confused... imagine how I feel right now. :)
So to answer your question ... What ever the Italians had lying around in their parts bin!!!!
 

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I feel this search of mine just got a lost more complicated.

I think I may postpone it a while longer and research things further...

Just one more question... would you put more importance on a high mile well maintained car or a low mileage one without a comprehensive history?

Just seen an 04 facelift 1.9 16v wagon on ebay that looks sweet but has 155k on the clock... and it's too far away for me to check out in person.
 

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I'm a big fan of cars with high mileages. People are generally scared of them so they are cheap. If you get one that has done lots of motorway miles with full service history then they are generally good for ages. On the other hand an older car with less miles with loads of owners and patchy service history can be much more trouble.

I bought my 20V with 111,000 miles on the clock and it had no hidden faults and has just given me a fairly trouble free year of motoring. Our other car is an ex-fleet Volvo 940 that had 94,000 miles at 3 years old. We still have it 12 years later.......

At the end of the day, mileage is just one of the things to take into account when buying a car. If everything else is good then I wouldn't worry too much.

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I had a 2.0i Cavalier as Company car many years ago, it did 148,000 in 3 years and when it went it was running better than new, and doing 42mpg on a run at 70/80. Had to replace dampers every year though! Never known torque steer like it :wow:
 

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I feel this search of mine just got a lost more complicated.

I think I may postpone it a while longer and research things further...

Just one more question... would you put more importance on a high mile well maintained car or a low mileage one without a comprehensive history?

Just seen an 04 facelift 1.9 16v wagon on ebay that looks sweet but has 155k on the clock... and it's too far away for me to check out in person.
I am considering getting rid of my 2005 SW also 1.9 16v - it has done about 135k miles most of which motorway - located in Biggleswade, Beds
 

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I know Biggleswade, just South of Bedford on the A1... I reckon about 35-40 miles from me.

There's one thing I need to do before I actually buy one though... and that's take one for a test drive and see how comfortable it is and how it handles. I love the looks, but haven't driven one yet... and I may find I don't like driving it.

What sort of price did you have in mind?
 
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