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Error code P2111-72 on a 2.0 JTDM

4.9K views 7 replies 3 participants last post by  wbanham  
#1 ·
Hi,
I got a "check engine" lamp on my 2011 Giulietta 2.0 JTDM (140) today, and when reading the error code with an iCarSoft device it says error P2111-72 "Throttle valve actuator open blocked - Actuator stuck open".
Maybe I should add that today was the first real cold day this winter with -10 degrees, but on the other hand it didn't occur until after 10-15 minutes of driving. No apparent other symptoms except maybe stalling slightly on low RPMs under load.
Is there a point in trying to clean this device, or should I just go ahead and replace it? Or could this just be a symptom of something else?
I would very much appreciate any advice on how to proceed fixing this.
 
#2 ·
Check post #16 in this thread. For a brera but basically the same fault. Check wiring for voltage , maybe try to lubricate or a new throttle body. There is a MES actuator test which can show if the valve is working or not.


Not a single hit for that code in the G forum.
 
#4 ·
Like it, often it is the simple answer which is right! The air being sucked in could still be at -10 after 15 minutes.
 
#6 ·
Ok, so there was definitely
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ice in the throttle body. I cleaned it out, warmed it up, cleaned some more and erased the error code. I took the car for a short drive, 10-15 minutes, and at least everything seemed ok during this.
I kind of wonder though, why there was watery gunk in there in the first place…
 
#7 ·
Burning fuel creates water, 1 liter of water per liter of fuel burned. Part of that water makes it into the crankcase and through the pcv system into the intake, in vapor form.

Intercooler cools down the vapors, so it either freezes in there (I'm sure some does) or it freezes on any cold metal surface it encounters next, like the throttle valve.

I've had to drill a small hole in intercoolers before so the liquid water would be drained out as the formation of ice completely blocked the intake
 
#8 ·
Plus the water vapour just sucked in through the air filter.

same for your gas boiler ch4 + o2 = 2h2o + co2. water is everywhere!