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5 years ago I bought my first 156 2.4 10V, I loved it to pieces and a proper bargain at £600.00. Didn't put a foot wrong and very fun to drive. I replaced it with a 156 175 which I also loved, then had a slew of issues with a G. and 159..

Tax and MOT due on the 159 I traded it in for a Focus ST-2 (2013 / 252 HP) in black over the weekend after a test drive fell instantly in love with it, I'll miss the show stopping looks of the 159 although for a smidge under 19K brand new that focus is so much car for the money and is amazing to drive. Also the mountune kit which doesn't affect my warranty is on the cards for another 30+ HP.

I was after a 3 MPS but the deal ended up falling through, looks like they have stopped production and they aren't replacing it. I love this forum and really enjoy the Alfa community, I'll pop in from time to time just to speak to some of the top blokes and ladies here.

In my head I made the right decision and will miss the Alfa's of past.
 

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Ha ha i have done almost the same thing i have changed my 159 for a ST3 and as like you i will miss the looks but the ST is great value for money and goes very well :thumbs: But i still have the 145 to keep my Alfa interest:)
 

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Thanks everyone, really appreciate it.. Cue I'll stop giving you a hard time over the G. : In retrospect I did like it, just had bitter eyes on :).. Alfa sorted out the few niggles, but I wasn't using it enough and it showed hence a petrol.

Not sure what happened with that 159, must of been a lemon geez.. Still it pulled some looks from people, sad to see it go. But round my area the ST if far rarer? I've seen 5 159's locally and 3 G.'s. Actually started appearing after I bought mine hmmm?

@ Nige, glad to see a fellow owner change to an ST, what colour did you get it in?

@ AL, thanks and yeah it's one hell of a drive.
 
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Good luck with the ST, they're cracking cars as has been stated.

Have recently returned from a tour where one of the other cars was a Mountune equipped Focus RS and it was a cracking car. As you say the Mountune stuff made no difference to his warranty and neither did impact his insurance as it's a fully Ford approved modification so looks like a very worthy upgrade :thumbs:
 

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Thanks everyone, really appreciate it.. Cue I'll stop giving you a hard time over the G. : In retrospect I did like it, just had bitter eyes on :).. Alfa sorted out the few niggles, but I wasn't using it enough and it showed hence a petrol.

Not sure what happened with that 159, must of been a lemon geez.. Still it pulled some looks from people, sad to see it go. But round my area the ST if far rarer? I've seen 5 159's locally and 3 G.'s. Actually started appearing after I bought mine hmmm?

@ Nige, glad to see a fellow owner change to an ST, what colour did you get it in?

@ AL, thanks and yeah it's one hell of a drive.
I got the Performance Blue with privacy glass and Style pack :thumbs:
 

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Good luck with the ST, they're cracking cars as has been stated.

Have recently returned from a tour where one of the other cars was a Mountune equipped Focus RS and it was a cracking car. As you say the Mountune stuff made no difference to his warranty and neither did impact his insurance as it's a fully Ford approved modification so looks like a very worthy upgrade :thumbs:
Thanks RSK :), 285 HP they are kind of nudging around with sounds like much fun.
 

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I got the Performance Blue with privacy glass and Style pack IMG][/URL]
Nice pretty much the same as mine bar colour, I didn't have a choice in the privacy glass as it was the only one they had in stock. Or I'd have to wait 3 months!!.:wow:
 

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one of the dads from my daughter's swimming classes has the old ST (the 5-pot), with a mountune conversion. he went for the stage 1 or whatever it is, the lowest output one. still pumps out something like 240/250bhp with shedloads of torque. he took me out for a spin in it last year and it was FAST. my next car (if it's not a company one) might well be the new ST estate. pics please, shadow :thumbs:
 

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Interesting read - although I've loved owning the Brera, with a little one on the way I need something with 5 doors.

It's still gotta be fast though (the Mrs has a MkI Leon CUPRA at 200Bhp so it's gotta be quicker than that!), and something a bit different...

In the last couple of days I've seriously been considering the ST-2. Goes well, practical, a bit different and loads of kit for the money. How are you guys finding them? I was originally after a GQV, but this Ford is turning my head!

Would be interested to hear how it fares as a serious proposition - any regrets?

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Interesting read - although I've loved owning the Brera, with a little one on the way I need something with 5 doors.

It's still gotta be fast though (the Mrs has a MkI Leon CUPRA at 200Bhp so it's gotta be quicker than that!), and something a bit different...

In the last couple of days I've seriously been considering the ST-2. Goes well, practical, a bit different and loads of kit for the money. How are you guys finding them? I was originally after a GQV, but this Ford is turning my head!

Would be interested to hear how it fares as a serious proposition - any regrets?

Cheers
Well the test car I drove had loosened up a bit on 8K miles, the Recaro's had bedded in a bit and I was also looking at a Mazda 3 MPS at the time. The ST if fast, I mean seriously quick.. That 250Bhp Brera (I had a 159) won't hold a candle simply due to weight I think, mines still winding in and noticeably slower than the test driven car. Same as the misses 500 Abarth, it took at bare minimum 2000 miles before the poke and the real kick came in (Including a substantial MPG increase).

Now the 159 / Brera interior IMO is much nicer looking but the seat's are better in the ST, but I didn't once think.. Ohhh the interior, I can't buy this. It's more than good enough and I was too busy having fun in it, which it's been a while since I had fun in a car. Actually I can't remember the last time I had so much fun? Lexus ISF 5.0L V8 was my last smiles all round car..

Stereo's great, voice recognition actually works without having to re-jigg all the names like I did in the 159 so it could understand my daft Yorkshire accent. No rattles, just masses of fun...

I got to test drive my own car (Sounds strange I know) this week and waiting for actual finance finishes etc. to be sorted mid next week for a Saturday pickup (Signed today). Never regretted it once and becoming seriously impatient at the moment :D..

One thing, if you pound it and I mean seriously pound it all the time (Which can't be good for it anyway).. You can get it down to low 20's MPG wise, on the M-way I was getting 44 and most people get around 32MPG combined with a fair bit of fun / heavy foot.

Looking at a black ST vs. a Black 159 in the looks department, this might be blasphemy but I don't think it's that less prettier? I suppose it is a little as I think the 159 is one of the best looking cars ever. But I dunno I like the look of both..

Also not fast enough? Well Mountune are press releasing this month for the MK3 upgrades... Even stock against a 280HP VXR and Megane 265 it can hold it's own (And win some times):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p015yqqr
 

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I used to work as a New Car Salesman at a Ford Dealer.

Took the ST (the original, this was back in '06 or whenever, not long after it had come out) out for a blat and grinned from ear to ear. The 5cylinder engine was a rorty, torquey animal of a thing.

However, I remember one occassion where a gentleman brought his Focus RS (the original) in as a possible part-ex. He took the ST out for a drive and was unimpressed.

Then again, I drove his RS and wasn't very impressed with that, so it's horses for courses, lol.

Either way, I think that, technically speaking, an ST is a better car for driving fast than most Alfas.

You won't find any snobbery from me on that part, lol.
 

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What is it about driving a Focus or any Ford that makes some drivers such ********* :mad: Tailgating, rude gestures, overtaking where they shouldn't :tut: and that's just the test drive ! :p
 
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