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Hey guys! I posted this on another helpful alfa forum and got some interesting responses, so I thought I'd try you guys as well to see if anyone could help :cry:

Wish I'd never bought this bl00dy car (Alfa 156 1.6 ts). Looks great and I did get one years trouble free motoring out of it, but everythig is soooo ****ing expensive!Servicing/Parts, etc, etc, etc....

Now it's finally dead. Heard a loud bang when it started (I did accelerate quite hard as I started it), the revs are really random, I have no control over the gas and it runs for about 5 seconds before making lots of popping and spluttering sounds. It then cuts out...

I have done a bit of research and I think it might be some kind of air leak. It doesn't sound like the MAF filter thingybob, but possiblty something else.

I am taking (towing) it into a Garage on Saturday, but was hoping that someone here might have an idea what to expect from them. I know it is gonna cost an absolute fortune anyway!

any help/thoughts would be apprecited!

thanks!
 

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I thought some of the suggestions on the other forum where worth following up ....

Yes, there are some of us who subscribe to both!! ;)
 

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Thomper said:
coil ? erm...what's that :)
Tje coil pack fires the spark plugs, sort of like the distributor used to back in the day. I think.
Does it run really rough like it's on three cylinders?
Either that or could be a problem with the ECU perhaps.

Anyone else got superior knowledge??
 

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There have been some cases of actual plugs breaking ... this would make it run rough.
 

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gazza82 said:
I thought some of the suggestions on the other forum where worth following up ....

Yes, there are some of us who subscribe to both!! ;)
Yes they were deffinately worth following up. Just trying to get as much info or ideas as possible so I don't get ripped off :)
 

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You really need to get it onto a diagnostic system. What year is it? Early models (pre 2001) used a proprietary setup which might not work with every system. Later ones were more standard. Also doesn't help the 1.6 appears to have been built with one of two ECU types in the early days. The ECU is the "brain" and this is what the diagnostic looks at to determine the faults).

Getting it onto that would highlight the fault codes and from there you can start eliminating the problems. But given the "bang", I would say something mechanical has failed rather than an electrical fault, although the rough running could be either. The fact is is trying to run means you probably haven't lost the cambelt but it could be you clattered a valve (or two) and the compression has gone on one or more cylinders, the plug may have failed: again losing compression, ... basically could be any manner of problems. The symptoms sound like my cars had when it's engine had been rebuilt which is why I'd get them to look carefully at the intake manifold on the back.

I did look at a thread that we've created that lists recommended garages, etc. but couldn't find anyone in the Bristol area.

But good luck with it ....

They can be frustrating little cars sometimes ... and every now and again you can get a "pup" but when they are running, you will be hard to beat an Alfa. :)
 

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Not sure if these guys are still in business .....

Duncan Slade
Alfanet Services
95-97 Fishponds Rd
Eastville
Bristol
BS5 6PN
Tel 0117 9520 444
Mobile 07968488942


Optima in Wootton Bassett
01793 840667
 

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Cheers guys, very helpful info!

Knowing my luck, the valves are probably all knackered or there is a hole in the engine or something equally as sinister.

To answer your question Gazza: It's on an X plate (can't remember exactly what year though) and it's only done about 35,000 miles.

If the bill comes to more than £1200 I might be forced to scrap it as I simply can't afford to spend any more on it. It's already been sat parked for nearly three months whilst I have been saving up some cash. What's the best way of selling it on? It has leather interior which is all in really good condition. Am I best breaking it all down and selling it on ebay? (you can see I'm being really positive here) :)
 

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Fix it! ;)

You might get more selling in one piece but at a low price due to the engine problem .. you need to find out what is wrong and how much to repair as this will dictate the "discounted" price you can ask.

Breaking might get you close to the same but you have the hassle of stripping the car, storing the parts and selling, which could take some time.

I'd be inclined to fix it and get it back on the road ... but then it's not my bank-account we are talking about. At least a working car is worth more on the market.

Be positive .. you don't even now what's wrong yet. ;)
 

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Has anyone here had any dealing with Alfanet in Bristol?

I have the number of the mechanic there, but was wonderinf if they are any good. The first guy I spoke to said that they were a 'bit' cheaper then the Alfa dealers!!!??!!
 

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Any specialist is usually less than the dealers. And they usually take more care!

Having said that I know of one near me that matches the dealer labour costs but they have main A-road premises and bigger overheads!
 

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I spoke to Duncan at Alfanet and he seems like a nice chap. Had a quick chat and he thinks it might be the Manifold. I think that's an expansive job (i'm sure one of you can tell me if that's the case) but he thinks he might "have one lying around somewhere" :)

She's going in on Saturday morning... Fingers and toes crossed (though not my right toe as I think I have broken that!) joy happy joy!
 

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I think the list price of a new one is around £600!!! I managed to get one for £125 a couple of years back.

Now repeat after me:

"I will not rev the nuts off my Alfa when it's cold" ;)
 

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I didn't really rev it very much :(

as for £600 !!!! oh my god !!!! is that a worse case scenario as that is a lot of money :( by the time he has done that and fitted it, it won't leave me a lot of extra cash to get anything else done!

I wish I'd bought a Seat now.... I used to love my Leon Cupra :(

Where's the best place to try and source a cheap one quickly (if I need to)?
 

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Alfanet may already know of somewhere local that may have a secondhand one available.

AlfaCity might be able to help plus a trawl of peeps breaking Alfa's on ebay and a couple of emails to them. You could also try 24/7 Spares on the web .. there are others.

AlfaCity contacts:

Telephone & Fax Numbers:-

Tel/Fax No: 0121 558 3377
Mobile 1: 07812 031 799
Mobile 2: 07870 156 648

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Gazza, once again you have proved yourself a veritable cornucopia of information and for that, I am truly grateful!

thanks again !
 
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