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the 166 has thrown in the towel. the (brand new) timing belt tensioner has collapsed, taking the valve timing with it.

it in classifieds, anyone with £400 can take it away - must be worth that for the ICS wheels and brakes alone, not to mention the new metal impeller water pump


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the 166 has thrown in the towel. the (brand new) timing belt tensioner has collapsed, taking the valve timing with it.

it in classifieds, anyone with £400 can take it away - must be worth that for the ICS wheels and brakes alone, not to mention the new metal impeller water pump


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:wow: I know your pain phil.
long long time ago now.
then my prediction was timing belts (etc) are like light bulbs....last forever or ping on first switch on.

How long did it last?
Diy or garage?
What speed etc IE details when pinged.

Pomeos was around 5mph and clutch in right away.New belt and tendioner and the rest is history.Well worth a punt,,,What hacve you to lose?


Pomeo (Sorely tempted BUT I'd be dead.)
Oh and you are so far away from me.
 

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was doing about 30 mph, maybe 3500 rpm... the belt and tensioner was fitted by a friend who has done many many V6 cam belts. looking at the tensioner its obvious it was a defective part, rather than a fitter error.

it had been on the car about 30 miles. I'm going to contact the supplier tomorrow to see what they are going to do towards the repairs, but i'm not holding a lot of hope. You can see the spring unraveled in the first shot, and poking out from under the pulley, in the second shot you can see the missing piece of casting where its smacked against the stop as its done so and broken it off.
 

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What brand / make was it?
IIRC they are all Made in Canada:confused:

was doing about 30 mph, maybe 3500 rpm... the belt and tensioner was fitted by a friend who has done many many V6 cam belts. looking at the tensioner its obvious it was a defective part, rather than a fitter error.

it had been on the car about 30 miles. I'm going to contact the supplier tomorrow to see what they are going to do towards the repairs, but i'm not holding a lot of hope. You can see the spring unraveled in the first shot, and poking out from under the pulley, in the second shot you can see the missing piece of casting where its smacked against the stop as its done so and broken it off.
That brings me to a point I have raised loads of times.

The timing interval between cambelt etc changes (assuming V6 Alfa) is 5-6 years or 60-72k.....But the warranty with a belt and tensioner is 12 months.

3.5k revs 30mph oh dear any loud sound etc

This just proves what a lottery and Russian Roulette these things are.

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The tensioner is ima, yes made in Canada. Worth noting the old belt and tensioner were on the car 6 years, and were like new.

And yes, nasty loud noise, although it is believed it was the tensioner fluttering rather than valve contact
 

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Just fit and engine? Cant be expensive and actually not too harder job...................Once you start taking your apart youll realise its not too much to build back up..........engine is only held in by four mounts..
 

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The tensioner is ima, yes made in Canada. Worth noting the old belt and tensioner were on the car 6 years, and were like new.

And yes, nasty loud noise, although it is believed it was the tensioner fluttering rather than valve contact
that's the spirit...I think you know what I would do...try a belt etc and pursue via supplier and manufacturer.
Also the old ones could be used to see if engine gubbed and needs doing properly.If it runs OK you have won a watch but still pursue for future repair to be sure.

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what the hell do the Canadians know about cars?

If I were buying a seal or cold weather gear I would look for Canadian, but car parts????

always though it weird
 

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I am currently breaking a 2.5 with good engine and box but won't have time until January to take the engine out
 

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30 miles :eek: Nothing but sympathy for you in your loss. Devastating. When I did my belts and put in a metal water impeller in the Spring I thought right, that's another couple of years at least in her. There but for the grace ...
 

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Ive been giving this a wee bit of thought..Eye ken nut a guid sign..However.
scenario.

You stay in a block ofd flats .The flat upstairs has a leak at the inlet hose and the occupiers are away on holiday....it runs and runs until it burst the ceiling and floods you.

None of you, either of you have no insurance watt doo yoo do.


Problmo the washer is probably about 4 or 5 years old.when it fails.

your scenario....you buy a new alfa 166 tensioner.It's fitted almost right away by a competent person who has a successfull track record of carrying out the task on the wonderfuel 166 v6 arese engine.30 miles later hopefully within a week of fitting it takes oot the whole engine(worst case scenario).

However the sale of goods etc amended by etc etc etc..states that an item should be of satisfactory (auld days merchantable) quality and fit for the purpose.
IF IT FAILS WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF PURCHASE IT IS DEEMED TO HAVE BEEN FAULTY AT TIME OF SALE.The seller must have to prove it wasn't...IMHO an insurmountable task given the fact it has failed.This is called the reverse burden of proof..a god send...the buyer has to basically prove nothing.

So back to the wahser 10p for a new washer and flat all redoecorated and new carpets etc etc etc.

So your tensioner....new engine is a bit too much to ask for but a rebuild by a specialist of your choosing is a reasonable compromise.

The best port of call in my experience is the english equivalent of the CAB In court advisor at your local sheriff court.


Hope this assists.

PS I know a bloke in EK to whom I would entrust the task if you succeed. However you may ken somebudy closer.

Guid Luck oh and in my experience ...keep plugging away and do not take no fur an answer.

Took me 4 years 11 months and two weeks after the best legal breains said I was on to plums...Well they missed oot by no reading the Beano. The CAB in court advisor bet them all hands down.

Pomeo
 

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I spoke to the part supplier today, and they have been excellent. Looks like the matter should be resolved quickly. Will know more tomorrow.
 

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appreciate it, thanks.

It does look like the parts manufacturer are taking it very seriously, and are looking to put things right. fingers crossed....
 

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Keep her on the road Phil.. if you don't you know you'll regret it ever time you pass a 166 coming the other way! :inlove:

I binned a Sud ti, 75 Ts and a 155 16v all for really minor things. Everytime i think about them it brings a tear to my eye.

DON'T DO IT.
 

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appreciate it, thanks.

It does look like the parts manufacturer are taking it very seriously, and are looking to put things right. fingers crossed....
Excellent result Phil ,If that's the case, and is as it shouyld be.

However should it go pear shape remember the 10p washer:cheese:

Pomeo
 
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