Can anyone clear up the torque figures for the diesels ? I know that the figures for the autos are higher in the case of the 180 version, versus the manual, so as we are auto only lets stick to that to avoid confusion. Various sources claim different figures for the 150, quoting 375, 380, 400 and 450 nm. Most quote 450 nm for the 180, but found one quoting 400. My dealer says 375 and 450 respectively. Alfa Romeo tech info on its UK and Irish site say its 450 nm for both. So who is right ? I'm placing an order tomorrow, and the dealer has pointed out, having spent time in both, that the 150 is smoother and quieter. He feels I'd be mad to spend €1850 more for the 180. But he is of the opinion that there is a 75 nm difference in torque. If he's right, then thats a lot of torque to give up for the sake of €1860. Confused yet ? Join the club. Now add in a second quicker to 60 for the 180, same fuel figures and, well, you can see the problem. What to do ? Smilie scratching head in confused manner goes here.......