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The last few day there has been plenty of news/articles about kids being bullied via electronic means like text messaging, facebook and MSN messenger etc.

Yes I agree that bullying is wrong etc etc.

BUT I cant believe this is happening with these places and how stupid people are to let it continue, there are enough options/methods that can be used with these services to avoid/stop this, and they have been around for ages.

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Facebook - your only friends with people you accept, you can remove coments you do not like, you can remove friends and even block them from further contacting you.

MSN - like with facebook you have to approve people to talk to you first, then you can remove and block them if you want/need too.

Text messaging - you can have numbers barred from contacting you via the provider. and failing that change your number and dont tell the bully.

Twitter/beebo/myspace/others - not used these myself so cant say for certain, but I would be very surprised if there were not any blocking features to prevent trouble makers contacting you. There'll also be ways of reporting abuse too I am certain.


All this moaning and complaining for days about something that seems like theres are already things in place to prevent and stop them hastling you. so all these parents/kids should just use the block features to stop it right away.
Complaining that sites/services aren't doing enough, to me there seem to be some perfectly adiquate methods/systems in place already! it looks more like people are too stupid to find the "block" button. Its only a few clicks.

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The problem is that more often than not the bullying consists of messages about the victim, rather than messages directly to the victim. What they find particularly worrying is the ease with which the messages can spread, how many others can get involved and the fact that even after it has all died down there is nothing to stop someone starting it up again. It is a genuine problem with no easy solution.
 

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Stop being a Cossiebag or we'll get you by the schoolgates at playtime ! :D
 

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The problem is that more often than not the bullying consists of messages about the victim, rather than messages directly to the victim. What they find particularly worrying is the ease with which the messages can spread, how many others can get involved and the fact that even after it has all died down there is nothing to stop someone starting it up again. It is a genuine problem with no easy solution.
true, and these devices are just modern day mechanisms for the ongoing practice of bullying. So it's critical that the act of bullying is extinguised out at source...not easy.
 

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Ah I see what you are saying as it is indirect. The example I have seen on the TV is of a child recieving a text message saying "your a loser" or something similar, which appears more direct, which is where there are methods of preventing as mentioned in my rant.


Stop being a Cossiebag or we'll get you by the schoolgates at playtime ! :D
Thats it, your deleted, blocked and reported

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yes this cyber bullying is rubbish, better with the old fashioned beatings after school IMHO :lol:
 
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true, and these devices are just modern day mechanisms for the ongoing practice of bullying. So it's critical that the act of bullying is extinguised out at source...not easy.
Absolutely. It is old fashioned bullying but with a new, more efficient medium. It is a bit like how the internet has made pornography more accessible.

IMO, educating youngsters is probably as important as technological controls. To prevent drowning in a swimming pool there are signs, lifeguards, a shallow end and life buoys - but we still teach children how to swim.

Ah I see what you are saying as it is indirect. The example I have seen on the TV is of a child recieving a text message saying "your a loser" or something similar, which appears more direct, which is where there are methods of preventing as mentioned in my rant.
If there is a good thing with cyber-bullying it is that it leaves an electronic trace. It is often possible to trace the source and confront the bully with evidence.
 
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So many 'victims' these days :rolleyes: - stand up for your self is my motto - worked a treat for me through my younger years (yes I was bullied, but it didn't come from the same 'perp' too often I'll tell ya ;) )
 

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The simple fact of verbal (or text based in this case) bullying is that anything anyone says about you is either true, in which case it shouldn't offend you, or false, in which case it doesn't matter.

I was a good bullying target at school - pale, quiet, clever - and no one ever bothered me because I didn't give a toss. Meanwhile the kids who got really worked up about it were constantly teased.
 

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I'm not doubting it exists, but i honestly don't remember bullying at school. Yes, we had 'hard nuts', but i don't think they had the brains to launch sustained bullying campaigns. Nor did they have the brains to look when crossing the roads, which i discovered when cycling down the hill at home time in the rain when, without looking, two of them (brothers: meatface and meathead) stepped in front of me. There was no way i could stop in time. The impact felt like hitting two cows.

One time, another set of 'hard nuts' bundled me into a corner to try and take take my dinner money. That was a really stupid thing to do. I was going through a whole heap of shi5e at home at the time, and their behaviour unleashed the rage seething inside me. They didn't get their money. And they never troubled me again.
 
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So many 'victims' these days :rolleyes: - stand up for your self is my motto - worked a treat for me through my younger years (yes I was bullied, but it didn't come from the same 'perp' too often I'll tell ya ;) )
Exactly what I told my daughter to do when she was being picked on,when she was 9 (she's 11now) ,I'M STILL BEING BULLIED TO THIS DAY FOR IT FROM WIFEY.This retard did her usual bullying act on my daughter ,so my daughter kicked her between the legs.pulled her hair & boxed her .
Wife & I were summoned to H\mistress's office so "Dad" could explain why he told daughter "Thump them harder than they thump you". Yes i was stared down by wifey in front of all present, my blood thickened as my wife's icy GLARE was trained on me as I tried in vain to sound like a responsible parent:rolleyes: My daughter looked smug & happy though:p:)
 

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Exactly what I told my daughter to do when she was being picked on,when she was 9 (she's 11now) ,I'M STILL BEING BULLIED TO THIS DAY FOR IT FROM WIFEY.This retard did her usual bullying act on my daughter ,so my daughter kicked her between the legs.pulled her hair & boxed her .
Wife & I were summoned to H\mistress's office so "Dad" could explain why he told daughter "Thump them harder than they thump you". Yes i was stared down by wifey in front of all present, my blood thickened as my wife's icy GLARE was trained on me as I tried in vain to sound like a responsible parent:rolleyes: My daughter looked smug & happy though:p:)
I think even 'GOD' allows you to defend your self ;)
 

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Exactly what I told my daughter to do when she was being picked on,when she was 9 (she's 11now) ,I'M STILL BEING BULLIED TO THIS DAY FOR IT FROM WIFEY.This retard did her usual bullying act on my daughter ,so my daughter kicked her between the legs.pulled her hair & boxed her .
Wife & I were summoned to H\mistress's office so "Dad" could explain why he told daughter "Thump them harder than they thump you". Yes i was stared down by wifey in front of all present, my blood thickened as my wife's icy GLARE was trained on me as I tried in vain to sound like a responsible parent:rolleyes: My daughter looked smug & happy though:p:)
Couldn't agree more:thumbs: my dad got hauled into the headmasters office for me giving a bully a hiding. after listening to the head teacher tell the story, he looked at me and said "did he hit you first?" i said yes, he says "did you hit him harder?" i said yes. he then looks at the head, tells him that the bully got what he deserved and dragged me out of the office to get a milkshake from McD's for being a good lad. gotta love common sense dads!!:lol:
 

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Couldn't agree more:thumbs: my dad got hauled into the headmasters office for me giving a bully a hiding. after listening to the head teacher tell the story, he looked at me and said "did he hit you first?" i said yes, he says "did you hit him harder?" i said yes. he then looks at the head, tells him that the bully got what he deserved and dragged me out of the office to get a milkshake from McD's for being a good lad. gotta love common sense dads!!:lol:
I'll vote for that....Bullies only understand one thing.....and it isn't compassionate, caring, understanding....
 

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Do two wrongs make a right though :confused:

I'm not advocating the wishy washy social worker approach, just thinking there must be a better approach?
 

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i do agree with you to a point. there is probably evidence to say that the 'you hit me, i'll hit you back' ethos has a part in the blame for all of the knife crime etc that we are experiencing at the moment. when does the escalation stop? sort of thing. however, i do think that the comment earlier about people not being victims all the time is a valid one. i think that some people do need to have a bit of a backbone transplant and stand up for themselves more. not necessarily in a physical sense, just have a bit more about you, if you see what i mean??
 

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Ah bullying, how it takes me back to my uncomfortable school days - the name calling etc.

I told my mum and she said "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names shall never hurt you.." Great advice and duly armed I trotted off back to school.

Next day I was approached by usual tormentor and I raised my hand and said "sticks and stones may break my bones but names shall never hurt me..."

So that was that: from then on he dispensed with the name calling.....and wen't straight to kicking ***** out of me instead........
 

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...i do think that the comment earlier about people not being victims all the time is a valid one. i think that some people do need to have a bit of a backbone transplant and stand up for themselves more. not necessarily in a physical sense, just have a bit more about you, if you see what i mean??
:thumbs: Absolutely agree mate.

I just see a lot of this so-called bullying on daily basis.

I get fed up with parents coming in to school complaining that little <insert girls name> (and 90% of the time it is the girls) is being bullied via FB,BEEBO, MYSPACE, MSN etc.

It’s not the school's place to deal with issues outside the school day. Read the T & Cs of FB etc and see if your child is actually old enough to have a legitimate account. If it’s genuine, then the site Admin should be alerted and if really necessary the local police liaison officer.

Parents need to take a proper look at what their precious one's are actually up to.

Yes I can educate. I wrote the AUP and each pupil has to sign it before I grant them access to the network with a username and password. Social Networking sites and chat rooms are blocked. If they access one in school then they are doing so via a proxy server - they are therefore breaking the AUP and will have their account locked. It is the child’s fault for breaking the rules - not the school's or the teachers (sounding like a Mod now explaining a banning :lol: )

In terms of actual violence, then as far as I am concerned, if a child hits back (and any previous incident has not been reported to their Form Tutor, Head of Year etc), then the only fair solution is to punish both pupils. It is hoped that the environment and ethos of the school encourages pupils not be scared to speak to an adult if there is something going on but when parents 'hot foot' into school demanding to see someone to deal with it, when no one actually knows what’s going on is really annoying, frustrating and shows what little parental skills some of these people actually have and just goes to show the current blame/claim state of society – it’s always someone else’s fault but never mine!

I could write a whole essay on this and probably still not cover all the points but I hope you get my drift.
 
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Bring back the birch that will put them in their place and stop them bullying, teach the little *******s some manners, ban them from using computers until they are 16, send them down the pits to burn off all that energy.


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Ah bullying, how it takes me back to my uncomfortable school days - the name calling etc.

I told my mum and she said "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names shall never hurt you.." Great advice and duly armed I trotted off back to school.

Next day I was approached by usual tormentor and I raised my hand and said "sticks and stones may break my bones but names shall never hurt me..."

So that was that: from then on he dispensed with the name calling.....and wen't straight to kicking ***** out of me instead........
That sounds like a scenario i have encountered in the past as well.....

I took up Karate and kicked them back though, they only tried it once more after that, a second kicking ensured they learnt the lesson they missed from the first one :D

I don't advocate violence, however when you have the biggest, dumbest muppet bearing down on you, and talking/rationalising with them wont help you then have to fight fire with fire.
 
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