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You know, the kind of people who buy a £1K Citroen Saxo and then proceed to spend a further £15K 'improving' it :rolleyes: :lol:. Why is it people think they can improve on the design of a team of experts by whacking on some crappy 'accessories' from Halfords? The example below should prove the point conclusively!
 

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Damn...that is so bad....:lol: .... i know what ya mean.... a design / development team spend millions on a car and some chav gets a hold of it and thinks his £250 spolier enhances its looks...:rolleyes:
 
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can we differentiate between custom (mass produced car that has been redesigned from the ground up and normally a one-off basis) and modified (mass produced car that had had loads of go faster/slower tat added to it)

the pictures you have posted are the case in point for modified, and in this case by someone with more money than sense, that is soooo wrong, i'm not a fan of rolls royce or bentley's but this is appauling and the owner really dones need someone to provide them with a reality check (in the way of a piece of 4x2)
 
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A well (read: subtle) modded car can be a huge improvement over the original, especially if the original's are ten a penny.

And engine/chassis mods are essential if you want your car to perform to it's best (all (sub-supercars) cars are built to a budget, and that means they can always be improved when they leave the factory.

We can all post funny pictures off stupid OTT mods, but there are some great examples of well modded cars out there too (including some on AO)
 

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ive always been of the opinion original is best

even when i was 21 and had a R5 GT Turbo, whilst all my mates were adding silly wheels and spoilers to their 205's i was getting mine as original as possible and in immaculate condition. im not as anal as the concours guys but i prefer an imacculate original car to a chavved up 1.1 saxo no matter how much money has been thrown at it.

im not completely adverse to modding but prefer the route say Overhaulin' takes than the chavved up ****e Pimp my ride produces.
 

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so all the people on here, with different wheels, suspension, exhaust, induction kit etc

a customised car in effect, is a chav?? little bit of generlisation there me thinks:mad::lol:
 
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i live on a 30mph main road and its unreal howmany cars go flying past flat out.
oh and nearly all are tarts handbags doveloped with the help of halfords lol.

i dont drive my alfa foot to the floor everywhere because id be dead within a mile and nor do i want to either, i mean ill give her some rope when the time/road comes.

i guess when your motor has the same performance as a milk float all thats left to do is floor it everywhere to save the **** take. :)
 
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ive never understood buying a litre corsa then spending loadsa money on it to try and make it go fast and look cool :rolleyes: why not just buy something that goes like stink in the 1st place and spend all the money on the insurance
 

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ive never understood buying a litre corsa then spending loadsa money on it to try and make it go fast and look cool :rolleyes: why not just buy something that goes like stink in the 1st place and spend all the money on the insurance
because most cant buy outright straight away and dont buy mods all in one go, its over a period of time, therefore a hell of alot cheaper than getting cained on insurance.

when i was 19, a 1.2 8v punto was 3k to insure on my own. imagine a bigger engined car, you can quad the insurance easy, if they will insure you atall. so it does make sence, in a way, but i wouldnt do it to a 1ltr parifin pisser:lol:

edit: oooooh pisser isnt in the swear filter:lol:nerner:
 
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My first question is what were the experts who designed the Saxo actually experts in?

My second question is what harm are they doing?

I personally wouldn't spend 10-15 grand on a Saxo but, if the funds were available, I could quite happily plough it into my ultimate MK1 Escort.
 
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My first question is what were the experts who designed the Saxo actually experts in?
Badge engineering a Peugeot 106 which in turn was based on the Citroen AX. Designing a little french supermini, a formula which used to work well (205, Clio etc).

My second question is what harm are they doing?
I suspect that it is the stereotypes of low standard of driving, overly loud music, racing round town centres etc etc. (Not that I am suggesting that All modified cars share these attributes (some would suggest mine is modified, with non-standard alloys, debadged and a fliptone paint finish), likewise you can be a nuisance in an unmodified car (the old BMW/Audi stereotype card can be played here))

I personally wouldn't spend 10-15 grand on a Saxo but, if the funds were available, I could quite happily plough it into my ultimate MK1 Escort.
Ah but MK1 Escorts are always cool. :cool: Whereas a Saxo in my humble opinion, while it may be an adaquate small car, just isn't.
 
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When I was 18 I drove a MKII Escort with 205s on the back (squeezed on Cortina tinilites) and 155s on the front, all of the Okey Cokey 2000 variety. It handled pretty much as you would expect it to; chronic understeer then snap oversteer whenever it was slightly damp. For a long time there were deep tyre tracks across the roundabout nr Risley on the East Lancs Rd that bore testament to this.

These days the kids seem to have more money to spend but what they get up to is no different to what I did 20 years ago.
 

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We can all post funny pictures off stupid OTT mods, but there are some great examples of well modded cars out there too
Even a broken clock is right twice a day ;). Most customized cars are total pants.

ive always been of the opinion original is best
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I personally wouldn't spend 10-15 grand on a Saxo but, if the funds were available, I could quite happily plough it into my ultimate MK1 Escort.
Anyone who plows £15K into an Escort needs to see a shrink :lol:.

I once saw a Saxo on which the owner had spent (and shown a breakdown of where it all went) £35K on his car. For crying out loud, think of what he could have bought for £35K! The world is full of fools.
 
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