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Hi all, I seem to have been on here a lot lately, but on the plus side of bugging you lot... its a friendly place to be! haha

I have recently made a custom induction to fit the Cloverleaf (all kudos for this must go to Twanspider as I followed his instructions and advice. His write up on his custom build made things so simple, so... all praise from my side goes to him!)
As it only takes half hour to fit, I thought id give it a go. Fitted the induction kit which consists of a silicone joiner, aluminium 90 degree pipe, finished with a Pipercross PK7000. In total (I have receipts) it cost £96.

I started the car and warmed it up, took it for a drive and IMMEDIATELY noticed one immense sound difference. My car actually sounded like it had a turbo, the breathing was however like Darth Vader in my ear, but when I let off, it sounded like a dump?? Iv no idea but it sounded like a turbo should. I didn't drive the car hard at all as I was only on a 40 road.

I then came back on to my estate and a gent towards the bottom who is a serious petrol head (older bloke, has cars I keep wishing I could afford or build) was out so I pulled up for a quick chat.
He advised how he heard it and sounds well, but when I advised all I had done was change the induction, he then advised I should have a remap, otherwise it can confuse the MAF and possibly damage it long term.

I then went on the internet, obviously full of horror stories, and read about how fitting a cone filter can cause flat spots, and possible MAF damage long term.

That was it, I turned chicken sh*t, went on the drive, swapped it straight back! :paranoid::biglaugh:

Iv been through enough since buying the car, turbo failure @ 56k miles (repaired under warranty), then weekend just gone the radiator popped (bought new, replaced myself, just took aaaaages!) lol

So being so paranoid, iv now put the normal air box back on to be safe.

Question is, would it cause damage? I know there wouldn't ever be hp gains, that wasn't any intention, it was purely to look half decent under the bonnet and for the nice sound.

Would a remap sort it if I ever decide to use it, are flat spots inevitable and would the MAF become damaged?


My priority is having a nice running car and I wouldn't risk reliability just for some noise, just thought id ask you experts

Thanks in advance, apologies for the essay!!

Jason
 
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Just been advised that it would be ok to use if..

A) I could run a cold feed to it to avoid heat soak,
B) I had the car remapped. They advised a remap at a Specialist MAY be able to produce some slight gains on a standard engine but would map the ECU to pass fuel to a ratio in line with the new intake of air flow.

Any of this sound legit and worth it?

I have checked the forum regarding remap and people are saying a remap at Specialist may cost around £300-£400.
This doesn't sound too bad, apart from the fact i live in South Yorkshire so probably nothing anywhere near me, and also, i have a stock engine so wouldn't want to strain anything or compromise reliability

Kind Regards
Jason
 

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Personally I'd be happy with what I've got!

I saw at the weekend what happens to a perfectly good Lamborghini Gallordo if the engine is modified for higher performance and more horsepower and it wasn't pretty!
 

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did same thing on my 145 and thought it also had flat spots and ended up with original air box back in.why not get rid of your centre silencer and fit a h2 ragazoon exhaust if you want some noise.also celtic tuning are mobile and mapped my qv and now it is super and they are a good price too.:thumbup:
 

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I then went on the internet, obviously full of horror stories, and read about how fitting a cone filter can cause flat spots, and possible MAF damage long term.
Question is, would it cause damage? I know there wouldn't ever be hp gains, that wasn't any intention, it was purely to look half decent under the bonnet and for the nice sound.
Probably, there is a whole lot of complicated engineering that goes into the design of an airfilter that is designed to maintain even, stable flow across the MAF across a wide range of operating conditions.

I hear you, I would love to have a sound pipe from just before the throttle body to the dashboard and a bimodal exhaust which switches on/open when your in dynamic mode..

Alfa are you listening..
 
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Thanks guys, sound advice as always!

I have kept the induction anyway as brand new and when I have the CL mapped, I will probably fit it then. I have found an Alfa Specialist local so they will be getting a call tomorrow. They are called 'Northern Alfa Performance'.

Any advice given to me is always something I'm happy to learn. Thanks again!
 
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