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Most of the responses I get will surely be 'search threads yourself', or 'stop flogging a dead horse'. Be aware I have spent hours searching various threads in various forums... but the common 'you've got to go direct to the dealer for them to program rolling codes and bla bla bla, isn't quite what I am asking...


A) Are there any reputable auto locksmiths who can fully program a spare key using the 'electronic code' on the code card? If so, what price difference is there from an Alfa Dealer doing it?


B) Most threads seem to talk about programming keys/immobilisers, with no talk about possessing the original Alfa Romeo 'Mechanical/Electronic codes', OR possessing diagnostic equipment themselves.

With the introduction of the new AlfaOBD Android app which works with the common bluetooth OBD adapters (and apparently the ability to reprogram keys), does anyone know if it is yet possible to program new keys/immobilisers with blank transponder chips yet (using the 'electronic' alfa codes)?

Much thanks in advance!

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Situation: -Alfa Romeo 156 2.0TS - CODE2 immobiliser with 2 button flip key type
-1 x fully working key (remote central locking/immobiliser etc..)
-1 x spare cut key (manual door lock operation, but no remote/immob function)
- looking for ways to get spare keys cut/coded
 

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I dont know this but would like to know..

bought a 156 Gta one of the keys works the alarm two keys start the engine open doors and a third opens doors only..

would like to know if the transponder and the key is programmable.

sorry to hijack but often keys available from eBay if this can be done on alfa keys
 

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I dont know this but would like to know..

bought a 156 Gta one of the keys works the alarm two keys start the engine open doors and a third opens doors only..

would like to know if the transponder and the key is programmable.

sorry to hijack but often keys available from eBay if this can be done on alfa keys
Just from what I have found out (my limited knowledge), second hand keys cannot be 'recoded' as the transponders can only be used once, with one car... after this they are effectively 'dead' and cannot be reprogrammed to work in another car.

You CAN however buy blank transponder chips, which I assume you can swap into your spare non working keys, or used 'blank' keys. I woudl 'ASSUME' you can then have an auto-locksmith reprogram a batch of these with new blank transponders.

I hope someone can correct me, or confirm I am right... and also if anyone knows who can do such a thing by 'cloning' an original key, or coding a new transponder using details from either the 'CODE Card', or from the database using the Cars VIN number?
 

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I've done a tiny amount of research on this myself and the transponder is the most difficult issue, everything else (like the remote) is doable and not too expensive/difficult. regarding the transponder issue apparently there are 2 systems used. If your key has a 2 on it then it's an earlier key and is hard to do, as described above. But if your key has a 3 on it then it's easier because it has a different "code storage" system, or similar, in the car so matching the transponder is possible at a specialist; though you may need to source a blank (never used) transponder chip which I believe you can get on eBay for not much money.

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awesome thanks for that... yeh I was quoted 100EUR for a 'new spare key to be made' at an auto locksmith in Dublin, but whether they actually know the problems or whether they were just realing off an automatic pricing without checking out the car fully, I don't know...

I was debating buying a ZedBull which I can source fairly cheaply, to clone the keys, but i'm not even sure if that is even possible with these CODE2 keys. I wonder if anyone on here knows?
 
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