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Bought the car, the remote doesn't work, I've changed the batteries which made no difference, i'm pretty sure it's the remote at fault but i've a couple of questions....

If the remote is left without power will it need re-programming?
Can I reprogramme it?
How much for a new one and will it have to be from a main dealer?
What should I check to see if it is/isn't working?
I assume the keylock in the glovebox would have to be on?

Thanks :D

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Thompatruck1 said:
Bought the car, the remote doesn't work, I've changed the batteries which made no difference, i'm pretty sure it's the remote at fault but i've a couple of questions....

If the remote is left without power will it need re-programming?
Can I reprogramme it?
How much for a new one and will it have to be from a main dealer?
What should I check to see if it is/isn't working?
I assume the keylock in the glovebox would have to be on?

Thanks :D

Thompatruck
Had this on mine when I bought it (fat V6).

Doesn't matter about the switch - that enables the alarm.

I'm guessing you are getting a red LED from the remote when you press it??

If so, check the receiver (inside the rear roof light). Twang it out, then CAREFULLY try and see if it's all in one piece in there. On mine, the small sub-PCB that had the IR receiver photo transistors on it had fallen off the main PCB - bit of a swine to reassemble but once done, it should be fine. Watch out for the little push button that tends to fall out at the worst moment too....

This worked for me at least, and I didn't have to muck about re-programming the remotes to the car (to answer your question, the remotes are fixed code, the receiver learns them).

Hope this helps some.
 
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You will need a four digit code to reprogramme the fob to the receiver...search for the many posts about this. If you haven't got the scruffy little bit of paper it comes on forget it :( New receivers are about £100.

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New receivers are about £100.
I paid £96 the part No is 60812835 and after that you'll need a PCB from a key with a known number (if you can't get one you'll have to buy a new key :eek: ) :( :(
 

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Hidden in the depths of the Alfa155 archive I found the programming procedure, thanks to Simon and Wrinx :D Just thought i'd chuck it in my post to put it at the top of the list for Umesh & myself.


This is a copy of reply I sent some time ago to a similar problem. It looks at though you may have upset the alarm receiver which controls the central locking (it may have lost its memory). Does the alarm still arm OK? (The main alarm unit is not part of the central locking):
I take it you have 2 transmitter keys. First (blindingly obvious) check the
alarm is switched on, the switch is in the glovebox.

Now sit on the rear seats and look up at the roof receiver (its in the rear coutesy light). Hold the key nearby and press the button. If you see a steady green LED for about 2 secs then the roof rx has recognised the key. Under normal circumstances the
central locking would cycle and the alarm would arm. If you see the LED but
there is no reaction, then you would appear to have a wiring problem between
the roof Rx and the rest of the vehicle.

If however this doesn't happen, then you can open the memory of the roof Rx
using the the key code. The code should be a 4 digit number. CAUTION, I'm
not sure what happens if you get any of the following wrong.
First ensure that the alarm is turned on at the glovebox.
1. Press the button on the Rx for approx 2 secs. The LED should flash for
the whole time you hold the button.
2. Release the button. After approx 2 secs the LED should flash once. This
is a request for the first digit.
3. Press the button the number of times corresponding to the first digit, ie
if the first digit is 4, then give 4 presses. Every press should cause a
brief flash.
4. Approx 2 secs from the last press, the LED should flash again to request
the second digit.
5. Continue in the same way for the other 3 digits. If a digit is 0 then
don't press at all, just wait for another request flash.
6. Having entered all 4 digits, the LED will either stay oncontinuously
meaning that either there has been an error entering the code, or the code
is incorrect. Or the LED will flash, meaning that the code is good.
7. At this point if the LED is flashing, hold the rx button down and press
the tx button.The rx LED should light continuously if the code has been
memorised.
8. There is a country setting procedure that follows but I'll omit this as
it defaults to EEC so don't do anything.
9. The rx LEd should now flash 6 times to show all is OK. If you get 18
flashes start again from point 1.
10 Repeat for key 2.

If you do not have the correct code, check what the National Security Agency
have on record, (that the sticker you should have on the windows, or a
dealer can check for you), as they are given all the key and immobiliser
codes at the time of importation.

If none of the above works at all, then you are looking at a new roof rx
(£90) and 2 or more new keys (£50 ea) plus fitting and programming. If this
happens to be the case, then you should be aware that then another similar
programming procedure applies, further details on request!

Hope that helps.

Simon"
 

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Right, so here we go...I final got around to having a look at the rcl, i've put new batteries in the key and get the red flashing LED, i've found two scraggy bits on paper with the codes on and I still can't get the thing to work! :mad:


So I removed the rear light panel, couple of questions... On a '97 P plater with a remote combined with the key, should it be a radio or IR transmitter/receiver?

In the receiver panel there's only the one PCB (no sub PCB) and it seems to have no phototransistors anywhere and that round hole isn't cut out in the panel, I assume that means it's a radio remote?

Anyone got any ideas? Or is it a time to get a new receiver? I assume that as long as the codes I have match the key then it's only the receiver i'll need?
 
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Sorry, Thompa I haven't forgotten. I just can't find the darn key. Its with the fuel tank cap somewhere. Where? I have no funkin Idea. Still I've been told "If you don't take some time off work and sort that s*it out in the garage..." So I'll find it this week I think. :)
 

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Chris no fuss, it wasn't a hint, honest!

I know the feeling I always put useful things in safe places...damn right they're safe, I can never find em!

I'm just trying to sort the remote locks at the mo and I have to admit electric aren't my strong point but I'll get there!

From the info McGuinn sent me(Cheers, good tech sheet! :) ) it's obviously a radio remote system which quite frankly baffles me :(
 

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Hey guys,

Cheers Thompa for that post about entering the code via the receiver... looks like I'm snookered since my remote does sweet FA. :rant:

I hope you sort yours out tho - good luck mate! :D
 
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