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Cambelt change on the Diesel 1.6

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OH's 1.6 multijet Jan '09 went in for a service on Monday with 106KM (66K) and the garage insisted on doing the cambelt.
Had a look on here and found threads on the petrol.
Checking the manual (which has been wrong in the past as we discovered on a 147) and a web site called
Alfa Romeo MiTo Timing Belt / Cambelt Change Intervals | MyTimingBelt.com
it states that the auxiliary belt needs to be changed at 63K and the cambelt at 84K.
Auxiliary belt definitely needing changing since the power steering was sluggish to get going on start up and there was a noise that would come and go.
Anyway the whole lot was done including the tension thing, pump etc. and it came to an eye watering €1,150.

Question is - did the cambelt really have to be done or could it have waited until the next service. Car does mainly motorway and country miles.
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"Regardless of the number of kilometres covered, the timing belt should be replaced every 4 years for particularly demanding use (cold climates,
driving in the city, idling for a long time) or in any case every 5 years"

From the manual... or 140000Km approx 87500 miles.

So i would say yours wasn't due quiet yet but Jan14 at the latest.

I would have got the service done then booked it back in at a later date for the cambelt change. Giving you time to get cash together.
"Regardless of the number of kilometres covered, the timing belt should be replaced every 4 years for particularly demanding use (cold climates,
driving in the city, idling for a long time) or in any case every 5 years"

From the manual... or 140000Km approx 87500 miles.

So i would say yours wasn't due quiet yet but Jan14 at the latest.

I would have got the service done then booked it back in at a later date for the cambelt change. Giving you time to get cash together.
Thanks for the response GT_MitoOwner. If it was my own car I would have delayed it. I hope to get a better price with an independent next year on the 155TB.

Had a quick look through the invoice and I'm sure it's somewhere in there but I didn't see the alternator belt but its probably under another name.

Got the impression that they had pulled the car apart and it was cheaper to get it done in one go. Labour is normally around €80 a hour so 4 hours work didn't look too bad. Some of the prices in particular the pads looked a bit steep. I hope the wipers are bosch replacement ones - wouldn't know until it starts to rain. After the cost of a replacement ECU at €700 only a few months ago maintenance costs have been steep this year to-date not to mention another set of tyres. Makes one think twice about buying a 4 year old car needing a major service.

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I think I would be questioning some of these items.

Oil for a 1.6 diesel is 4.6 litres not 5.2 litres as per your invoice
Fuel filter isn't part of service on the 105Km/65K
Theres no pollen filter fitted which is done every service.
No mention of auxiliary belt in your invoice.
Also strange you got water pump, tensioner and timing belt then a timing belt kit, you paying twice for same thing.
The timing belt kit on your invoice is for a 1.4 not a 1.6 diesel.
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I think you should definitely question that belt kit as the parts are also listed sererately and if it is the one for the 1.4 (I assume GT got that from eper) then they really do have some questions to answer.
Did you get an estimate for the work from any other Alfa service centres before booking the car in ?


Also most of the locals in the area would recommend TI Autos (an Alfa specialist) over any of the authorised Alfa service centres, details below.

T.I. Autos (Gerry Campbell)
Cowper street
Phibsboro
Dublin 7
01 838 6567
T.I. Auto Engineers Ltd. * * *-Alfa Romeo Specialists- * * * * * * 01-8386567* - Home
For a main dealer, that's actually pretty reasonable, bear in mind most UK dealers opening gambit for a minor service is 350 quid.

You pay full price for parts at the dealers, so a service, timing belt, discs and pads at a main dealer for a grand looks OK to me.

At 4 years, and with discs and auxiliary belt worn out, I would change the timing belt as they did, because it indicates the use the car has been put too.

I also think a pollen filter every 12 months is a good idea as they can end up stinking.

What they have done isn't just a book service its a good old fashioned 'full service' of the type anyone in the game would do to any used car they bought.
For a main dealer, that's actually pretty reasonable, bear in mind most UK dealers opening gambit for a minor service is 350 quid.

You pay full price for parts at the dealers, so a service, timing belt, discs and pads at a main dealer for a grand looks OK to me.

At 4 years, and with discs and auxiliary belt worn out, I would change the timing belt as they did, because it indicates the use the car has been put too.

I also think a pollen filter every 12 months is a good idea as they can end up stinking.

What they have done isn't just a book service its a good old fashioned 'full service' of the type anyone in the game would do to any used car they bought.
Spoken with the OH about your inputs and TBH she has been amazed at the responses. And she's very appreciative. So many thanks to all. A call will be put in.
On David's point about getting a quote from another dealer - we had planned to get a quote from a reputable local independent called scully autocare but it didn't happen. In hindsight we should have got another quote. I will ask your guy for one on the 155tb so thank you for the contact. OH's car was put in for a normal service with M.B. but we knew that the auxiliary belt might have to be done. We've given the car to this particlar Alfa dealer all along and since the MJ is needed for business we weren't going to compromise on any goodwill gesture if it was ever needed. We were surprised on all the bits that needed doing but this car does get 'driven' occasionally so it probably falls into the 4 year as opposed to the 5 year.
Sorry about the delay in coming back with an update but a lot of other things outside of getting the car service came up.
The AF dealer finally spoke with the OH and said the following:
No pollen filter changed stating that it was not needed since it was done on the last service.
Auxiliary belt was not changed :( stating that they visually checked the belt and it was OK and it didn't need to be changed. This leaves a question mark over all the belt related parts on that invoice.
OH felt after the call that she was really out her depth dealing with them and that they saw her coming. Probably the last time that we'll ever deal with an AF dealership.
P.S. And the oil - they always charge for 5.2 Lts - it's the standard rate on the system.
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