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Good evening Alfa Owner, Sorry for not being on for a while. Sinse the last time I was on I have got rid of the lovely 156. 4 months ago I bought a 3.2 gt on a 06 plate.

Basically the paint on the calipers has started peeling, is the a common problem with these. My friend had a 3.0 gtv That is probably 6 years older and from what I can remember his we're mint.

Really just wanting to know cause it is making my lovely calipers look like crap. Not really sure what to do.
 

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Well mine look the same if there is any consolation. Not sure what the easiest solution is to gain decent results, I have heard of powder coating but not sure how much work is involved with that or even if its something you can do without specialist equipment.
 

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Am glad to hear am not the only one. Think I might have to touch them up myself without touching the signature..
 

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Some light sanding and just some top coat on them would make them a little better if your not bothered to much, or powder coating them , or you could buy the vht paints and spray them i like i have just done,

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Looking to get my alloys reconditioned soon, I might ask the guy who is doing them if he can take a look at the calipers see what he suggests.

@cree, is it a pain in the arse taking the calipers off? do you have to bleed the system?
 

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Im doing a brembo conversion so they were already off the car.
 

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Yeah just been looking at foliatec caliper paint. Looks like this will be the way forward.
 

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I used the ones from vht did a nice job.
 

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I had this exact problem and was going to get them refurbed but when it came out of hibernation i didnt have time, i wanted to clean the arches while wheels refurbed and attacked them with the pressure washer.... not a good idea, especially with the wrong nozzle! It stripped the lacquer off and looked awful....pink and mat finish in most places and dark where the lacquer remained, panic set in and thought it best to try and relacquer to protect them until i got chance to refurb.

I used a heat proof lacquer and they look great, back to there original colour and no need to paint, would definatly recommend it! Will post pics when i get time but literally cleaned the caliper up and sprayed the whole caliper with the lacquer etc.., oh and i did this on the car as i didnt want to remove the caliper.
 

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IIRC getting brembo's on a FWD car is supposed to be really silly. I forget why exactly but the gist is because that much stopping power throws off the balance.

Read it on barryboys. A guy was explaining to a chav why putting brembo's on his clapped out 306 was not only a waste of money, but also rather dangerous.
 

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Don't use folitrc stuff!!!

Far better stuff available at far better prices!!!
Any high temp paint or smooth rite type enamel will be more than up to the job.

Ill be doing the calipers on the 2.4 once her indoors decides what colour she wants
 

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Looks like its going to be a big job for a small problem. But has to be done, the calipers are to cool just to leave and get worse.

@standtall I would advise bleeding the system unless u fancy vice gripping the flexi but then there is a good chance of damaging the flexi then u will have to bleed the system anyway.
 

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I would seriously consider my quick fix, yes its temporary but its quick and they look great, even did the rear calipers too, now much easier to clean too. Mine looked much worse than yours and look great now... will post pics tomorrow.
 

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IIRC getting brembo's on a FWD car is supposed to be really silly. I forget why exactly but the gist is because that much stopping power throws off the balance.

Read it on barryboys. A guy was explaining to a chav why putting brembo's on his clapped out 306 was not only a waste of money, but also rather dangerous.
Complete rubbish, although true for a old 306.

With regards to just putting the top coat or clear coat as some call it on the calipers I've seen it done by somebody on here with good results, just with some light standing.
 

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Hi,

Here are the pics of my calipers, mine looked a lot worse than yours with peeling of the lacquer in the same areas as i said before.... following my accidental removal of more lacquer via the karcher i then carried on and removed as much as i could of the loose lacquer leaving a pink coloured caliper, the paint on the rears is very thin so better off scrubbinig clean, again these will appear matt and pinkish. (Edit: You can see the calipers better if you click on the image, thought it would come in bigger than that!)

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As i said i panicked after seeing the mess i had made and so had nothing to lose in spraying with the high temp lacquer and as you can see it looks really good, cant even see the joins where the old lacquer was still attatched. Even better i left them on the car with just some basic masking.

I looked into a full refurb on the net and it was looking about £600 all in by a specialist BUT that would be in standard red (bright) not the darker Alfa red, something else which put me off painting them.

Hope this helps, the lacquer was standard high temp stuff for engine bays etc, might have been the VHT stuff, it was an ornage can, will update when i find it!

Just remembered... i also applied some paint sealant to the caliper after as well and now the dust washes off without any fuss, Auto Glym Extra Gold
 

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Hi Coz156, I have a 2005 3.2 and yep my calipers were minging. Got allsorts of advice about not being able to simply spray them as they had been powder coated. Ended up taking mine into a wheel refurb place for oddly enough a retint of my front windows when the guy noticed my calipers and said he could sort them out. He did and they look like new. Even did my back ones in the same alfa red, plus painted my rusty hubs in satin black too. Job done for £200 which I think was very reasonable. You aren't anywhere near Blackpool are you and I could give you his details?
 

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I did exactly the same as John last Monday, a lot of he laquer comes off with your thumbnail, otherwise use a plastic lollipop stick so you don't scratch anything. Bit of 1500 grit wet and dry and relaquer in situ. Very quick job and hike you've got your wheels off, may as well spray your brake discs in high temp silver paint. Makes your hubs look lovely behind your alloys
 

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Same here, spayed my hubs silver on the back, makes it look like a new car with the wheels refurbed too, just a bit of a hassle keeping the wheels clean on the inside rim... the fronts are painted grey on my disks anyway so i just cleaned them up a bit although looking a bit mucky on the pics.
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Oh and a final recommendation, the Michelin PS3 i put on while refurb of wheels was carried out do seem a lot better than the awful P Zero Rosso I had before!
 

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@danster. Afraid the is a few hundred miles between us, am up in north scotland. Saying that there is a few wheel refurb places round here. Might pop in and see what there they are saying.
Never thought of that.
 

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Complete rubbish, although true for a old 306.
I've discs all round so yea its not that, its the idea of having 4/6 pots in all corners on a front heavy car, especially when you should have 80% forward bias. The ass end will overtake the front if it isn't done right.
EDIT: I should add, this is all from a guy who knows more about cars than me, he could well be full of ****.


Which means having high end Brembo's on the back is pointless since they'll be purely decorative, or dangerous if you don't tweak them down. You also won't really get that much improvement if you don't upgrade the rest of the breaking system, factory stuff is good enough on Alfa I think, but honestly I'd do fluids and pipes too.


If they're just decorative you could buy some calliper fascias.

I haven't drove with Brembo's so I can't comment on performance, but the Ferodo pads are pretty great, maybe they'd be good enough if you just wanted more breaking power.

Would it be overkill to put Ferodos in a Brembo?
 
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