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Hi all

I have been looking around a few places in SW London for a GT to replace my Y-reg Seat Leon. From owners experience, what are the main things I should look out for? I gather boot noise can be one very annoying and frequent problem, but are there any others? For example, my Leon leaks water quite a lot, so I would recommend people to watch out for a damp smell in the car...

Also don't really know whether the diesel or petrol is better (all the ones I have seen have been 2.0s).... anyone driven both and have an opinion?

Thanks for your help

Alex
 
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Welcome to AO Alex...hopefully a GT owner will be along in a mo to give you some first hand experience...


all the best


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Hi lex. Glad to hear you're looking for a GT!

The only recurring faults reported on here regarding the GT seem to be:

Boot rattle
Electric windows

The boot rattle is somewhat erratic, and seems to affect some models a lot, and others not at all. The only way to tell is to take whichever GT you're interested in for a good test-drive over bumpy roads - don't let a dealer fob you off by only allowing you to take it down roads you could play snooker on.

The electric windows have a habit of 'forgetting' where they are. The GT has rimless doors, so the windows should adjust themselves as you open and shut the door to form a seal with the roof, but they don't always do this. Other windows misbehave by not going up or down all at once, or the one-touch function not working. Resetting them often cures these maladies in the short term, but they tend to come back.

Other than that, because the GT is developed from the 156/147, it's benefitted from a lot of the problems on those earlier models being ironed out.

Finally as for 2.0 petrol vs 1.9 turbo-diesel, it's a matter of taste. I have a 2.0 petrol because I loved the 2.0 petrol in my previous Alfa (a 147) and didn't really feel the need to change. It's a smooth, deceptively powerful engine, and I love it. The 1.9JTD has more torque, being a diesel, but in its unadulterated form it's out-performed by the petrol, which is why a lot of people on here get it modified (chipped). However, there are those that swear it's the best engine for the model, so drive both and make your mind up.

Happy hunting :)
 

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I have the diesel, and would never consider the other engines. It can easily be remapped if more power is required, but then should be driven considerately. (The clutch could be expensive) I got mine at 46000 miles, and only give it light usage. If you want to make a noise, put in a CD, the diesel sort of growls a bit, but rarely needs to go over 2500 rpm, with huge torque from 2000 to 4000. More in fact than the V6. And goes nearly twice as far to the gallon.
 

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As already said above, look out for the bootlid rattle, check for windows that have lost their sense of direction and check all functions of the alarm to ensure it is arming the doors and the bootlid. There are a small number of reports of the sensors on the bootlid becoming faulty, causing the alarm to give one extra beep when arming to notify you that there is an issue and that it has not armed that particular zone. (It seems to be inherited from the 147, I had this issue on my 147 but thankfully not my GT. Plenty more info. in the 147 lounge on it).

Regarding petrol vs diesel... thats entirely down to your own personal circumstance.
I went for petrol over diesel due to my mileage (fairly light to average) and the costs of servicing/tax/insurance between both.

If your looking for opinions on both, there is a good mix of GT owners in here with everything from a 1.8 T Spark GT to 3.2 V6 and of course some JTD and JTDm owners.
I'd advise doing the sums and taking a couple of test drives to find the one you want :)

Congrats and good luck with the hunt!
 

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Thanks for your help everyone.... thankfully (not many times i'll say this) SW London is blessed with many speed bumps, so rattle should be easy to spot!
 

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Hi Lex!
Welcome to the forum :D

I've had 10k problem free and happy motoring with my GT jtd.
No electric problems and a boot rattle that was sorted without fuss at my Alfa specialist garage under warranty. (I may have been lucky - the problem definately exists on some cars - check out the threads for the good and bad).

I moved to a JTD from a GTV 3.0V6 - so noticed a power reduction (along with the legendary aural soundtrack!). I had the above mentioned "Chipping" to ~190bhp which has kept me smiling :cool: Also the economy has averaged out at ~50mpg :eek:

A comfortable, stylish and involved sriving experience. Check the history of the car and carry out the above checks. If ok - your head will follow your heart willingly. ;)
 

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What does the "chipping" involve? How much is it and does it invalidae the warranty?
 

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I have a 1.9 JTDM and am very pleased with it. I have only done 4000 miles so far in about 9 weeks. It has not used a drop of oil and nothing has gone wrong. My last car, a BMW 320D, had had a warranty job on the tailgate window and had used a pint of oil by this stage.
The diesel is creamy smooth and the power delivery is a lot more urgent than the BMW although the BHP figures are the same. I am getting 43 mpg at the moment but it is loosening up nicely so I expect better later. It is a seriously fast car, you can find yourself doing 100+ without realising it (sorry officer!) and need to keep a watchful eye on the speedo.
The feel of the car on the road is so "Alfa" it would bring a tear to a glass eye.
I bought mine new from Bishops in Guildford and I found them really helpful, I am sure they could find you a good second-hand one. It is only a few minutes down the A3 from SW London.
 

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Chipping is modifying the software of the engine management system (also sometimes called 're-mapping') to produce more horsepower and better performance. I think it does invalidate the warranty if the dealer notices, plus you would need to inform your insurance company to stay on the right side of the law, who might increase your premium.

Someone who's actually had it done will I'm sure be along shortly to explain further! :)
 
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