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As a sort of follow-up to the post on Powerflex bushes back in July, I just wondered if anyone could tell me how much standard replacement bushes would cost?

My car is starting to clunk quite a bit on rough surfaces and, assuming it is the bushes that are worn, then I'm contemplating getting the uprated ones if they aren't too much more expensive. The Powerflex website says they are between 5 and 8 times more expensive than rubber ones.
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Hi Justin,

Powerflex only do the 155 Wishbone bushes. Benefit - they don't wear out as quickly. Disadvantage - they don't replace the Ball joint.

You can get new Wishbones (with the bushes bonded to it) from AO for about £45 each.

I don't know if anyone has fitted the powerflex bushes yet or what they think of them.

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i paid about £60 for set of 2 from local motor factors more parts are being sold from places like this lately so try your local dealer you never know
 
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Hey Guys,

i don't even know if i need new bushes?? running a 1997 on its originals, get a fair bit of 'creaking' from the front end if i go over speed bumps etc - whaduineed???

regards Raj :rolleyes:
 
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Hi Raj, Could it be your shocks perhaps?

Regarding the wishbones though, I have taken the time to look at the previous posts on this subject and I realise that you need to buy the wishbones to get new rubber bushes.

Because they are similarly priced its a bit of a conundrum really - either replace the whole wishbone with new rubber bushes attached, or use the powerflex bushes. The risk is that this ball-joint is also stuffed.

How have the people who have bought the powerflex bushes got the old ones off - I read that they are bonded to the wishbone itself.

The wishbones themselves don't wear out do they? And does a new ball-joint come with the new wishbones?

Anyway, I'm rambling a bit here. I guess I need to go to the garage and get them to take a look at the thing to determine where the clunking problem lies and go from there. I guess if I can get away with not replacing the wishbones themselves (i.e. balljoint is OK) I will go for Powerflex as they are supposed to improve handling further anyway. My car's done 103,000 kms by the way.
 
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Took my baby down to the suspension specialist this morning: the diagnosis - worn ball joints! The driver side one's worse than the other but he advised replacing both. So I take it that requires whole new wishbones? Can you get new ball joints seperately?
Interestingly he said that the bushes were OK.
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Henry - any chance you can post a copy of the instructions that came with your set of bushes? I know that you haven't fitted yours yet (come on!!), but the instructions may give the rest of us an idea as to whether to replace the wishbone or the bushes...

Incidentally, EB Spares do the wishbones for £38 per side, I think plus vat + postage...
 
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Hi Rich
I've tried EB spares before - they sent me a very short and to the point email that they don't do 155s.
Oh well, I'll try them anyway. Was quoted £98 each for wishbones from my Alfa dealer!
 

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My reply from them was last thursday - although they did say that they don't do many 155 spares. I'm sure that will change when they realise that there are thousands of 155's in the UK that will all need work on them about now!
 

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I have heard today that they are on back order from Alfa themselves as I am waiting for a second hand set so I can fit my bushes to these and then swop them over!
 
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My apologies Rich. EB Spares got back to me and they do indeed have them. On order from Alfa you say Henry, so they're the genuine article?

They also have the Powerflex for £44 (must be one side???).

From memory my original enquiry to EB was about manifolds.
 

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The £44 quoted is for both sides, but it's just the bushes, not the whole arm. CLick the link below for a picture of a std arm and a set of Powerflex bushes.

Wishbone Piccy
 
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What's the story with these Wishbone bushes?

When mine wear out do I need just the bushes or the whole arm?

I understand that you can only get the Alfa bushes if you buy the wishbone arms at the same time (i.e. they're bonded in place).

If I have a second-hand arm (mine) how can I fit different (Powerflex) bushes? Do I have to cut/hack/burn off the old rubber bushes first?

Where does the ball joint fit into this story?

Nneurrrnnnnnnggg!!

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You're right about the bushes being bonded into the wishbone - and probably about burning the old ones out - Henry could tell us as he has a set, probably with instructions - Henry?

The ball joint is on the other end - if this is worn, you're wasting your time replacing the bushes. For best results, you would need to get the bushes out of a new arm and replace them.

I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a waste of time - during the average 155 ownership, you're only likely to replace the arms once, and at £38 a side, it's not a big deal. And you get new ball joints into the bargain!

To top it all, I've been speaking to a Land Rover owning friend of mine, a vehicle which is notoriously good at eating suspension bushes. He's been told that fitting 'firm' bushes moves the suspension play and vibrations elsewhere and can cause fracturing of other componenets / welds. What to do?!
 

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Since reading all these posts I noticed that my tyres were wearing very thin on the inside edge, so I now have to replace both wishbones I ordered them today from E.B Spares. Hopefully they'll be here tomorrow and I thought if I took some photos someone could use them for a technical article. If they are of use let me know where to e-mail them to. wink
 

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Oh forgot to say that my local dealer Quoted approx. £55 per side for wishbones and said that part numbers's had superseeded to 46474556 (60813013) & 46474557 (60813014} old numbers in brackets. Hope this helps.
 
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Hey Rich, the £44 for the Powerflex is right, but apparently they do a discounted price of £76 for a full set. Still, seems to be heaps better than the £24.95 per bush Powerflex themselves were quoting.
I'm pretty sure I will order the bushes with my new wishbones. If you read the FAQ on the PF website they say the only reason the carmakers don't use polyurethane bushes is the expense. Rubber is much cheaper and easier to fabricate.
But don't ask me how to put them on - I plan on just giving them to a mechanic to fit :)
 

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Daiblack: The pictures would be great. Send them to [email protected] and I will get them up for the article. Some text would be useful too. If you want to put it all on a CD and send it to me that is OK too. Have a look at the lowering suspension one I did for an idea.

I was going to do one too, but am waiting for some old wishbones so I can fit my bushes to them and then fit the wishbones to the car. I can then pass the wishbones onto someone else to put bushes into!! I believe you need a press to put the bushes in, hence why I don't want the car off the road whiles I find somewhere with a press.

I was going to do an article on this too when I got round to it!
 
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