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Its time to replace my brake disks and pads. I ve been wearing drilled Zimmermann disks and Ferodo DS2500 pads (both front and rear) since... 2006 :whistle:

I will be going for a cheaper option this time. I am thinking of TRW, Brembo or maybe Textar for both disks and pads. Any opinions which one has better "bite"? I m not going to ask which one has a higher coefficient of friction am I...

I am also having trouble to choose the correct product number (especially on disks), entering my VIN in https://alfa-romeo.7zap.com I get two product codes for disks, 71739567 and 71772267 which the latter one mentioned as "classic line". Whats the difference anyway.. ePer returns 60658565 for disk code and I can't get a clear result about pads. My car is 147 1.6TS 120cv year 2001. lDo I have to pay attention to something specific on these codes or I should be just fine by selecting the correct car/model/engine on Autodoc and this is enough to order the correct parts?

One more thing, some disks are mentioned as "coated". What is this coating about?
 

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There was a nice explanation about 147 rear brakes probably in September. I think you have 250mm rear disks but the later 156 type brake pads which have tabs or lugs at each side. Early pads had a spring bracket at the top of the pad, dead centre.

Pad choice? I didn't rate Brembo R90 pads highly for initial bite. I've not tried Textar pads in an Alfa but T&N friction products seem to be squeal prone these days. My choice would be an undaring one. TRW. They are consistently good even if people don't rave about them.
 

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I replaced front disks and pads about 2 months ago. I opted for Brembo,most expensive from EuroCarParts. I have always chosen the cheapest parts on other cars,so i decided for this i would try the opposite.
What can i say,as opposed to the ones that were on before,i noticed after the car sits for 2-3 days they don't accumulate so much rust.
Other than that,for the level of performance i need from the car,i cannot detect any difference. i drive moderately slow,and don't slam the brakes,so who knows-perhaps someone else could make a difference.
Price wise,on mine i had to go for the most expensive option,as the cheap one would not fit.
Other questions-just ask
 

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Doing some googling on disk coating i found out that it offers rust protection ( = better cooling, rust acts as insulation). Coating is better compared to simple painting and far better than no rust protection at all. This limits my selection to Brembo and Textar disks only (they offer coated versions), TRW only offers painted ones. Perhaps I should choose a brand for the pads not necessarily the same with disks.
 

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I did not know anything about coating,and even less about painting.
Where is the coating/paint applied,to the actual surface of the disk?
 

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I have Brembo disks all around with TRW pads, the breaks are great, I have great feedback from the pedal and even if I need to brake harshly it doesn't cause me any real issues and the car stops on a dime.

What I will say for the pads though is even after a clean, 3 days later the wheels are covered in "soot" from the braking and need cleaned again, and I drive like a pensioner.
 

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I did not know anything about coating,and even less about painting.
Where is the coating/paint applied,to the actual surface of the disk?
Me neither. I got some info from the links below


 

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I would suggest ATE discs with ATE pads, works great. These small stock brakes that Brembo offers are nothing special. Also, drilled rotors are a stupid myth, especially for racing, slotted rotors are okay-ish but they are loud and eat up the pads. Stock is the best option for street use.
 

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I fully agree to the drilled rotor,had them on a previous car and and i only realized how crap they were after going back to stock.
If you need racing pads,might as well go for them,not for altered the rotors
 

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After some more opinion gathering, I am considering one of the following sets (any other recomendation is welcome)

Brembo coated disks + TRW pads (177€)

ATE coated disks + ATE pads (210€)

what do you guys think
 

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Coated disks are definitely the way to go, performance from the TRW pads is still top but it's just the wheel colouration, genuinely covers the wheel, my wheels are "black" and I've got the multi spoke wheels.
 

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A cheaper alternative is EBC Yellowstuff - it is pretty much the same in performance but half the price. I had EBC Yellows on my race car first, then switched to Ferodo DS2500 and I can't really see any difference.
 

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A cheaper alternative is EBC Yellowstuff - it is pretty much the same in performance but half the price.
I just realized that the DS2500 I am currently having are priced at 350€ (pads only). They now seem too expensive to me (I must have payed around 250€ the ..previous decade!) , on the other hand they lasted about 13 years and they still have enough material on them for lets say two years (I m using my bike to go to work), I am changing them because my drilled rotors are worn and they re developing small cracks around the holes. I guess organic pads would last less than the half. I m not sure if i tool advantage of these pads performance since I never put my car in a track. My sister's Grande Punto and my buddy's 156 1.6TS brakes feel much more responsive on cold bite (and I have no idea what pads they re wearing but they re definetly the cheapest available). Each time i drive my sister's car i stick my face on the windshield on the first braking. Dont get me wrong, I am talking only about the sensitivity on the brake pedal, not the performance, there is no lack of information on the brake pedal and the ferodos never failed on me, the car always stopped amazingly on emergency braking even after long mountain downhilling (??? this is not the correct word isn't it)
 

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Well, both DS2500 and Yellowstuff are for mixed city/track use but are geared toward track use and thus can withstand high temperatures easily. That's why they never failed you but they're also need some little heating up.

I guess if not racing, then any EBC or Ferodo pads will be fine. I don't even know what pads and rotors are in my daily 156 but they're sufficient for me.
 

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I had the coated (zinc IIRC) EBC brakes on my old MX5 and it didn't rust on any of the surfaces apart from where the pads contact, right up until they wore out. Yes, I did a LOT of sporty miles on them...

On my Chrysler 300c I switched to ATE grooved discs and ceramic pads. What a difference to stock! NO more brake dust everywhere. And excellent stopping power. They do need a LOT longer to bed in though, but I still do the standard bedding once new - slam on anchors at 40, but DON'T STOP, then slam on again at 50 and don't stop, then slam on at 60 and don't stop. Best way IMHO to surface the new pads / discs. You have to coat the disc surface with pad friction material but not overheat, hence why you don't stop. Always worth doing after a car wash where they spray god knows what all over your wheels/discs too.

I'd try EBC Red Stuff next time I need them. I'm about to recomission my GT after being sat a year and a half so the brakes are a tad rusty. I'll clean them up with a wire brush on a drill first then bed them in as above. Incidentally, it fired up instantly and everything works. If only everything in life was as reliable as an Alfa Romeo, eh?
 

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In August 2018 I bought a set of Brembo brake discs and brake pads for my Alfa 156 JTS at autodoc.dk
Works really great. I paid 1.633 DKK, (approx. £ 185.60 or € 218) for discs and brake pads (front and back) including shipping.

After parking for a few days in the rain, there are actually a bit of small rusty rain drops on my Brembo discs, but the first touch of the brake pedal removes it immediately.

Alfaworkshop.co.uk charges £ 147 = approx. 173 € for the Brembo discs (back and front), but as far as I know, they only carry Brembo brake pads for the GTA. However, at alfisti.net you can get the Brembo pads at approx. € 63.60 or approx £ 53 + shipping :

https://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/parts/147_Brake_Discs.shtml

http://shop.alfisti.net/Tuning-Styling/Alfa-147/Brakes:::1_19_40.html

But you might actually want to try to check at the “local” autodoc. pages for their prices. Be aware that some mail order companies actually charges different prices depending on which country you live in.

I think you can actually choose the right type of brake discs from alfaworkshop. On that page they mention the production year where the types of brake discs changed. Good luck
 
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