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Unfortunately had the disappointing diagnosis from the AA of why my beloved 3.2 (56 plate q4) brera now sounds like a Massey Fergusson. Without any warning from the dash and only a few months after its last service, the engine looks to have run a little light on oil and as a result, the main bearings are dead.

I'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this but sounds like I'll either need a second hand engine, a 'short engine' if available or a long check-in to the garage for a rebuild.

Any advice on repairs or engine sourcing would be greatly appreciated!

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The only other major engine related issue on the new 3.2 I know of happened to Gry B's S.

Basically, the dealer who serviced left flushing oil in it & it ground to a halt:(

You sure no one has swapped the engine for a 2.4;)
 

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Its done just under 50k having its last service about 6k ago with Selina 5w40 in and filter replaced. The oil temperature gauge failed to work after the service but I just considered this a characteristic of Alfa ownership!

After hearing the noise yesterday, first things was to put a couple of litres of oil in as with a warm engine, the dip stick was showing very little. I checked this morning with a cold engine (read on here that it takes a while to come back from the sump) and it was at max, so it must have had at least 3litres in when the fault developed.

Does it seem a little strange for a bottom end to go even with 3litres of oil in?

I'm going to book it in with an indie later for a full diagnosis.

I was thinking about getting a diesel, now I've got the power and noise of one without the fuel efficiency :lol:
 

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If the engine has been running on half its oil requirement, it will have run the bearings dry at every corner unfortunately as the oil sloshed about.

Look for an engine from a scrapper as I wouldnt trust the top end either now.
 

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Don’t the 3.2 have an oil level display?
I will be surprised if the main bearings failed since they normally outlast the big ends with oil starvation.
Maybe the person who did the diagnoses is clueless and it is not as serious.
 

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I think a false diagnosis is my best hope although the AA guy did seem pretty confident.

You're right, the 3.2 does have an electronic oil level indicator usually on start-up but this has been absent as of late. Last time about a month ago it showed half full. Before the last service this worked perfectly and I kept it topped up. Seems a little hungry though to do 2litres in less than 5k miles.

Next step is to get it towed to a garage for full diagnosis. Avanti in Ipswich are my local specialist and they confirmed on phone this morning that they haven't seen a Brera/159 3.2 with a serious failure before.

A newly acquired Clio 1.6 is my chariot until then (and yes, I have checked the oil! :) )
 

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My GM based 3.2's use no oil. I know several other owners personally & they say the same, even when hard driven / when high mileage.

To lose that amount of oil points to another issue for sure!
 

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Considering the comparably high use of oil and lack of warning, it sounds suspect that there was another fault and the bottom end failing is a result of that. All speculation at the moment though.

Many thanks for the eBay link JON156 - seems like a good price for engine and gearbox.

Appreciating it's a significant job, has anyone any idea of how much an engine and gearbox straight swap out would cost at an indie? The gearbox is fine but presume it's an easier job to do both together?

I'm keen to get it back on the road to make use of the winter boots fitted last month (although it is rather unseasonably warm at the moment!)

Cheers all for your help and advice
 

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The eBay engine/gearbox is from a MY2008 159 Ti Q4.

Mine is a MY2007 (56 plate register in Jan 07) Brera Q4.

I understand that its the same engine and gearbox in both cars, but does anyone know about compatability between model years for electronics and other connectors etc?

Is there anyway of checking this by comparing my chassis number against the engine/gearbox numbers?

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Avanti in Ipswich are my local specialist
Arpa, your member details say you live in Greater London. In that case I would recommend the Alfa Workshop in Royston. They would be much closer than Ipswich and no one knows Alfas better than they do. I have used them for over 10 years.:thumbs:
 

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Just a quick update for anyone interested:

Diagnosis from the garage was the big end failure due to lack of oil. Not sure if a problem caused an oil leak or my ignorant failure to monitor was the problem, however, it appears the problem occured once it was down to about 3-4litres (full compliment 5.6 I believe).

Thanks for the links to the eBay engine - its now nestled under my bonnet and running lovely. They also fitted the gearbox attached to the new engine which I understand was updated for the 2008MY cars. I've been told its a little less 'notchy' although its difficult to tell after 2 months without driving the old 'box.

The radiator was also replaced due to corrosion at the bottom. This was first noticed at about 40k miles and 4years.

All in all, a thoroughly wallet lightening experience but we all know Alfa's are run with the heart and not the head which is why I had a big smile driving it home. :)
 

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Delighted to hear you had a good resolution. You were very lucky to get an almost brand new engine at that price!:) Well done to srsgrandmaster I would say.
 
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