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I can't believe the roller coaster experience I have just had over the last 24 hours! Last night at about 11pm, I stumbled across a freshly advertised silver, 2001, 3.0 V6 166, auto, on autotrader. 56k miles, FSH (including belts, water pump etc), silver, leather interior, large pepper pot wheels, interior immaculate, mechanically all good, with just a few 'London scratches' on the bumpers. My first reaction.......I've found the one!.............The price? Well, seriously underpriced at just £1200!!!!! Holly ****! You don't see examples like this everyday at any price, let alone £1200, so I emailed the vendor and followed up by phone at 9am this morning on my way to work. Owner seemed like a nice chap (living in classy Chelsea, had owned the car for 8 years etc etc). Bingo, I had found my perfect first Alfa at what seemed like the bargain of the century! The owner agreed 6pm for the viewing and I spent the day at work with the cash burning a hole in my pocket. At 5.15pm, the owner called me to say that someone was in his kitchen handing over the cash! Apparently, they had called during the day, got wind that someone was coming to see it at 6pm, jumped on a train to London and bloody gazumped me! I am GUTTED! Next time, I will be more pushy with the vendor, telling them that I will be bringing CASH and ask them not to allow anyone else to view the car before I get there! The car was only on autotrader for about 10 mins when I found it...........who'd have thought that I would be beaten to it, when I called the owner at 9am the following day!

So.............who gazumped me?! Hope you enjoy it.......you git!:tut:
 

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The seller is the git!
He should have put the other (then) potential buyer off until after you had viewed her.
Good luck with your continued search...
 

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I agree. All he had to do was invite me to view it first.........or at least call me to give me the option / qualify if I was 'serious', with cash in hand etc! What a bargain that was...........
Thanks. I just needed to vent that!
 

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I know the Seller has all the power here, but agree with HazeyBlue 100%.

I had same when I was looking for my Fiat Coupe. After months and months of searching/viewing/test driving, a low mileage, late registered Plus model popped up on Pistonheads late one evening - just 20 miles from home.

Phoned the seller immediately and arranged to see the car the following afternoon, telling him that I would go into work in the morning and bluff/book the afternoon off. This meant I lost half a days pay, even though I got into the office before 7:00am to make sure I could get away by 1:30pm. I left my contact number with the Seller and asked them to contact me as soon as possible if circumstances changed and told him I would call if I got delayed etc.

Having commuted home to drive down, I was 10 minutes away from the Sellers house and approximately half an hour early - so I phoned to check it was ok to come a bit earlier. Guess what, I was greeted with the information that 30 minutes earlier, the car had been driven away by the new owner :rant:

I found a rarer (crono LE), even lower mileage Coop around 3 weeks later which I am glad I puchased over the one I missed - but at the time I was spitting blood.

Good luck lbj - the car you are meant to own is out there and I'm sure you will find it soon Mate.


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Thanks Bob. Your story is equally (if not more) outrageous! What ever happened to a 'gentleman's agreement' eh? I guess I should have declared just how 'ready to buy' I was more than I did when I spoke to the owner this morning, but I was applying the more conventional approach to negotiation I suppose........which considering the undervalued asking price, was the wrong strategy! What did I think I was going to do.....knock him down to £800?! I suppose I would have offered a cheeky £1000.....but then instantly put the £1200 on the table if he hadn't accepted. I reckon that car was worth £2500-3000........but more to the point it was local, low mileage, serviced, a good colour and decent spec. A lesson learned for sure. I wonder how long before anything remotely like that one comes up?
 

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Early Bird gets the worm..in reality all you said was you would come and look at it. No agreement made.
 

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I feel for you! The same thing has happened to me a few times but the one that sticks out was a Mk2 Golf GTi that I travelled over 100 miles to hopefully buy that passed me driving in the opposite direction 5 miles from the guys house and I thought it was a co-incidence to see an identical car going past!

I can see both sides of the coin to be honest as I've bent over backwards for people who were supposedly 'definitley' going to buy my car then never turned up and other people who were interested have gone off and bought something else but I think if you're a decent person and have a good car then you know it will sell at some point, in your case especially seeing the price was so low.

Last year when I bought my wife the 147 I travelled down to Hexham from Central Scotland and the guy advised me that a few folk were interested but that since I was the first person to get in touch with him and had spent time discussing the car he would give me first dibs since the car had just gone up for sale. He was true to his word so there are some good guys still out there.

If you fancy a manual Super you should get in touch with the guy who is selling Tony Romes old car. It needs some stuff doing and is high mileage but you'd probably get it for a good price and it has had a recent clutch, belts, etc. Just a thought.
 

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Happened to me before I bought the Alfa. I went to the sales office to look at a 200SX, which he sold about 30mins before I got there.
 

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Same here. I got the car checked by an Alfa specialist, bank draft in my hand, and before I handed over I asked for the service history (I was told it's complete and in the house). Turned out there is none - I should call the garage where he serviced it, they will confirm it. I so wanted the car, I did call the garage, they didn't remember the car at all, when I asked them to double check, they said yeah, they changed the oil about 16-18 months ago. That's it. Since then I got a better car from the UK.
 

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I have sympathy for both sides in this. There are so many ditherers and tyre kickers out there that the good uns get tarred with the same brush. It's sadly all too rare that an honest buyer meets up with an honest seller.
 

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The seller is only human after all, and if someone turns up and makes a cash offer there and then whats he going to do?.
 

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I feel for you, I called a seller of a motorbike once twice in a day because i had organised to see it and then wanted to check it was still there. he responded and said that he woudl not let anyone else see it before me. and then when i met the bloke he was a nice genuine chap, and said (when i paid him the deposit) that there woudl be a lot of disapointed people now that he woudl have to call back, but he stuck with the first caller/appointment maker.

I have taken this forward with me to selling my vehicles.

I sell vehicles on ebay, and always organise viewings to suit me, and once an appointment is made I never give the opportunity for a gazumping without calling the first person first to give them the opportunity to come quicker if they can.

On Ebay i get a lot of no show's and hence maybe this would explain the sellers reasoning(as many of my no-shows also have teh cash burning in their pocket), maybe over the chrismbo period he had lots of enquiries and no-one show up (i suggest this as i had the same for my vans!)

just think, what will be will be, you weren't meant to have that one.

I do feel for you, but can also slightly see the sellers poitn of view too, he rpiced it for a quick sale and got one.

good luck in your search
 

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Just to reassure you that there are still decent people out there.

When i viewed my old Triumph Daytona 600 i agreed a deal with the owner and shook his hand but left no deposit with a view to pick the bike up the following weekend. When i picked the bike up the guy was gutted that his phone had been ringing all week and he had been offered more than our agreed deal but as we shook on it he stuck by it. :cool:

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Why oh why did i sell up 12 months later :rant:
 

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166 Wanted!

Yes, all fair points! Not meant to be.....etc etc and 'treat others as you would want to be treated'. All things considered, I think he should have paused and given me a quick call surely! Anyway. Opportunity missed, lesson learned. Moving on! :cry:

So, any really nice low mileage (less than 70k) automatic 166 3.0 examples out there for sale? Happy to pay up to say £4000? First choice would be leather interior, larger pepper pot alloys, must be automatic and any colour other than red or burgundy (just not my thing).

Many thanks

LBJ.
 

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Yes, all fair points! Not meant to be.....etc etc and 'treat others as you would want to be treated'. All things considered, I think he should have paused and given me a quick call surely! Anyway. Opportunity missed, lesson learned. Moving on! :cry:

So, any really nice low mileage (less than 70k) automatic 166 3.0 examples out there for sale? Happy to pay up to say £4000? First choice would be leather interior, larger pepper pot alloys, must be automatic and any colour other than red or burgundy (just not my thing).

Many thanks

LBJ.
Worth a look? All the bits you noted.... mileage, and 6 month warranty, ownership warranty available, DSP, Sat Nav, Leather, Horseshoes, steering wheel controls, zender kit, not red :D - Be quick I might gazump you myself! ;)

2001 ALFA ROMEO 166 3.0 V6 24V AUTO WITH FULL ZENDER KIT

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Alfa Romeo : ALFA ROMEO 166 SPORTSTRONIC ZENDER KIT 3.0

Been for sale for at least a month, so might be a haggle or 2 to be done.


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Worth a look? All the bits you noted.... mileage, and 6 month warranty, ownership warranty available, DSP, Sat Nav, Leather, Horseshoes, steering wheel controls, zender kit, not red :D - Be quick I might gazump you myself! ;)

2001 ALFA ROMEO 166 3.0 V6 24V AUTO WITH FULL ZENDER KIT

Also listed here

Alfa Romeo : ALFA ROMEO 166 SPORTSTRONIC ZENDER KIT 3.0

Been for sale for at least a month, so might be a haggle or 2 to be done.


Bob
Yes, but £4299?? I know 166 prices seem to be on the up at the moment, but £4299 still seems alot despite the spec. I soooo regret selling my same year/similar spec 3.0 18 months ago for £1500!
 

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Yes, but £4299?? I know 166 prices seem to be on the up at the moment, but £4299 still seems alot despite the spec. I soooo regret selling my same year/similar spec 3.0 18 months ago for £1500!
so true 2 shoe I bought lacey a 2001 sportonic 4 years ago for £2.5k ...that's a lot of dosh furra zender...Glad I am not into them.

I now wish I had gone for phils

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That's a nice looking car. I guess the £1200 one was a real one off price wise (particularly as the owner appeared to have kept up with the maintenance; belts, water pump etc) and shouldn't be used as any kind of benchmark. Frankly, I would only really expect a high mileage, tatty example with no recent service history at that price. Quite a jump to £4295 for this dealer example. Perhaps if being sold privately, it would have been around £3000? There's not much out there on the used scene at the moment which may be inflating the values a little. I don't know much about these cars really, but if everythings functioning correctly and it's straight and clean with service history - it would easily be as 'nice' to drive and own as an equally priced BMW/Merc/Jag etc at the £4000 level (I imagine). Surely they don't continue to depreciate rapidly once they reach the £3000-£4000 point if the mileage / service history all looks good? £4000 would buy a tidy 3 series (328 coupe for example) or Merc CLK - which are solid / quality cars, but I defo prefer the Alfa scene.:thumbs:
 
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