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After eight years of loyal service, it’s now time to semi retire the 30 year old Taxi.

I’m rather taken by this as a modern. Thoughts?

 

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Holy macaroni :)
 

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It was a red Astra.
The GTC is yet another 3door car that was discontinued due to lack of ,new car, demand.
You could get a Giulietta !
 

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It was a red Astra.
The GTC is yet another 3door car that was discontinued due to lack of ,new car, demand.
You could get a Giulietta !
Granted.

Is an Astra GTC worse to drive in a chillin’ n crus in’ way than a Giulietta?

Where is my local Alfa dealer? Does a low value Vauxhall need main dealer assistance or can a Joe blow garage service it? If it breaks down, will the AA Van have the part on it or is it some esoteric part that can only come on back order from Italy?

when you live alone with no support network nearby, your car HAS to work, day in, day out. When it breaks down, the AA must be able to fix it within 30 mins. It’s not lovely, it’s not some romantic la la la. It’s the brutal reality of living alone.

things have to work :)
 

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Aren't Vauxhalls for people who have no interest in cars?

And that looks like another hatchback to me, purporting to be a coupe.
 

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I have never or would ever buy a Vauxhall (some on here would say a 159 is part Vauxhall...they'd be right!)...my wife once owned a Tigra though!...and I've never driven GTC....but it looks quite nice.
 

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Here’s the weird thing. I thought it was ‘just’ a three door Astra.

Wrong.

For reasons lost to marketing but appealing to engineers... oddly, it sits on a longer wheel base than the Astra hatch and has a wider front track, while its front suspension is from the Insignia VXR (I don’t even know what one of them is, but VXR sounds cheers big cheers ok).

So... would you rather drive a Mercedes 190E or the GTC? :)
 

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An old Merc is way cooler than any Vauxhall.
 

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I’ve had an old Merc for eight years, and no one - not that it matters to me - has ever considered me to be cool.

no one - well, no one of merit - gives a **** about the car you drive.
 

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I was talking about the car being cool, not the driver!
When I see an interesting car, I hardly ever notice, or care, who is behind the wheel. Perhaps that's just me.
There's plenty of reliable but uninteresting metal out there - the Japanese, with the odd exception, seem to specialise in it.
 

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Old Mercs are cool, new ones not so much.

I've driven the equivalent 5-door Astra lots. It's quite nice to drive (but not as nice as a Focus). However, whenever I drive one I worry that people will think I've paid for it with my own money. It's the only car I get that feeling in. If I drive a Kia, for instance, I couldn't really care less what people think.

I get Gino's point about Alfas but I used to fix mine with my lowly, unskilled hands. Nothing much about it was more difficult than other cars I've owned. There's this idea that they need special treatment but mostly an oil change is an oil change, regardless of the badge.

Personally I'd keep the Merc, unless you wanted to offload it cheap, in which case I'll see you once the current crisis is over.
 

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I’ve driven at least 10 GTC’s most of them our in diesel format. About 2 have been in 1.4 petrol.
It’s the VXR that’s the proper model.
The build quality of both of them feel built to a price though.

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It's a good looking car and when the Giulietta first came out, numerous posters complained it wasn't a real Alfa because it looked like an Astra. It's 12 yrs since I've driven a Vauxhall, but recall they did have the knack of producing a slighty lower, stiffer and more powerful version of their basic models, without going extreme in the way Ford and Honda do. That "slightly sportier" approach is exactly what appeals to me about the 156 and Giulietta.

Don't know anyone with a GTC, but a friend bungs massive mileage onto a standard Astra without encountering reliability problems.

Where I'd expect the Giulietta to score over the Astra is steering and gearchange feel. But that's a guess, based on the traditions of both makes.

Have never understood the snobbery about Vauxhall on here. OK, so there used to be thousands of identical company car Vauxhalls around us. Do you know why? Fantastic value for money. Most of us have only so much to spend, and in the nineties when you compared a Vauxhall with BMW, Alfa, Audi etc you saw you'd have to step down a model to afford one of those makes. Changed from a Vectra SRi to a 156 JTS in 2007 and soon wished I could have had the Vauxhall engine in the Alfa.
 

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The idea of differentiating the 3dr from the 5dr was an idea the Opel Design boss Mark Adams tried when we were working on the project that became the taller and more original Focus before he left Ford.
 

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It's a good looking car and when the Giulietta first came out, numerous posters complained it wasn't a real Alfa because it looked like an Astra. It's 12 yrs since I've driven a Vauxhall, but recall they did have the knack of producing a slighty lower, stiffer and more powerful version of their basic models, without going extreme in the way Ford and Honda do. That "slightly sportier" approach is exactly what appeals to me about the 156 and Giulietta.

Don't know anyone with a GTC, but a friend bungs massive mileage onto a standard Astra without encountering reliability problems.

Where I'd expect the Giulietta to score over the Astra is steering and gearchange feel. But that's a guess, based on the traditions of both makes.

Have never understood the snobbery about Vauxhall on here. OK, so there used to be thousands of identical company car Vauxhalls around us. Do you know why? Fantastic value for money. Most of us have only so much to spend, and in the nineties when you compared a Vauxhall with BMW, Alfa, Audi etc you saw you'd have to step down a model to afford one of those makes. Changed from a Vectra SRi to a 156 JTS in 2007 and soon wished I could have had the Vauxhall engine in the Alfa.
I’d be surprised if the dynamics of the GTC were as hateful, my wife’s words, as a Zafira an insurance company lent us for a week. The Auto Trader writeup mentions the steering in the positives. Also, GM headhunted a really good chassis dynamics guy from Ford who worked on the Ka and original Focus. Having been in a car driven by him through Valencia I’d say the particular man wouldn’t let the sport model out below par.
 

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There is a black VXR GTC near me. They actually look pretty smart from the outside. No doubt if it had a different badge on it then opinions would be different. However, it still doesn't even compare to a Giulietta QV and probably doesn't drive anything like one.
 
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