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Have done a search within the forum but couldnt find anything.

Just after a rough idea of cost for replacing cambelts on a 2001 156, 1.8. Its on 62k at the moment but the guy hasnt had them done.

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62k :wow: :confused: Do not use your car. Recommended mileage for belt change has been revised to 36k. Don't think driving it slowly will get you through as often it is at lower speeds they go, due to less inertia in the system, it puts more strain on the belt.
 

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Its one i'm looking to buy so not mine yet. The chap has had it a year and hasnt done them whilst he has had the car, but they may well have been done before he had the car. I'll have to find that out.

Do they have to be done every 36k?
 

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Its one i'm looking to buy so not mine yet. The chap has had it a year and hasnt done them whilst he has had the car, but they may well have been done before he had the car. I'll have to find that out.

Do they have to be done every 36k?

Yes they do.

If there is no evidence of them having been done, move on.
 

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Any idea of cost for my future reference??

If there aint no proof of having them done, i will indeed move on!
 

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62k :wow: :confused: Do not use your car. Recommended mileage for belt change has been revised to 36k. Don't think driving it slowly will get you through as often it is at lower speeds they go, due to less inertia in the system, it puts more strain on the belt.
As this is only a recent announcement by Alfa, then surely there are loads of cars out there with owners who wont realise this. If its been 72k for 'x' years, and then changes to half of that, then it can be too majorly serious?

Does this now mean all cars between 36k and 72k, who were planning on belt changes at 72k (as per the original recommendation) are now dangerous and all have had broken belts?

After all, nothing in the engine has changed since alfa announced it was 36k not 72k.
 

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I agree that it was 72,000 for a long time and only recently revised to 36,000 so it's not like all the twinny engines were exploding at some point between 36k and 72k and Alfa have only just cottoned on. Italians can be laid back but surely not that laid back!

I wouldn't worry too much about the fact that the car hasn't had them done at 62k, just get the seller to discount the purchase price to cover it and make sure you get it done as soon as you've bought it.
 

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Just had mine done on a 2.5 V6 by an indie and it was £580, but the V6 does have an extra variator (I think), so the TS should be a little cheaper.

I Hope that helps.

Mark

PS ring yr local alfa stealer for a shock quote !!

Also have you seen the amount of 156's on ebay being sold with broken cam belts !!
 

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Monty - thats exactly how i see it! I have already mentioned to the seller about the fact i'd want to get it done if i bought the car, and obviously price would be negotiated because of this!

Troll - cheers for the info. Thats quite pricey but like you say, more to a V6 hence the price goes up! Thankfully i've found a local guy who specialises in Alfa's and Fiats - he's just serviced my coupe and i'll be taking any alfa i get to him for servicing!

He used to work for Fiat but now specialises in them and Alfa's - he loves them and cos its only him he's very reasonable!
 

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Iso it's not like all the twinny engines were exploding at some point between 36k and 72k and Alfa have only just cottoned on.
Umm, it kind of is. They've been breaking with monotonous regularity around the 48-50k mark. Just do a search on this forum. I'd love to know the figures of how many have lasted to 72k, I would be prepared to lay money on the fact that more have failed (or have been sensibly replaced beforehand) than have lasted.
 

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BN, you mean a forum which will attract people likely to be looking for advice on what to do about a failed cambelt... I think that may skew the statistics slightly.

I am sure that if more cambelts were failing ahead of the recommended service interval than those that lasted then some of the consumer watchdogs would have picked up on it.. and the Alfa reputation would be for exploding engines not rust buckets/dodgy electics.

Just my 2 pence and not looking to pick a fight... the moral is get the cambelt done whatever!!!!
 

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BN, you mean a forum which will attract people likely to be looking for advice on what to do about a failed cambelt... I think that may skew the statistics slightly.
I absolutely agree with that. However, it just comes up time and time again and I can only think of one person whose belts have lasted the specified time.

I am sure that if more cambelts were failing ahead of the recommended service interval than those that lasted then some of the consumer watchdogs would have picked up on it.. and the Alfa reputation would be for exploding engines not rust buckets/dodgy electics.
I don't think it's a coincidence that most garages were telling people to change beforehand. It would have been to important to Alfa not to lose their fleet purchasers for them to admit it was a fault.

I'm sure I'm correct in thinking that the same engine on the 145, 146 and 155 had to be changed at 48k miles. I think the rubbish plastic tensioners which seem to be the cause of the trouble were introduced with the 156. I could be corrected on this as I have no personal knowledge and little interest in the FIAT block 16v 2.0.

Just my 2 pence and not looking to pick a fight...
Nor me, I'm just fairly convinced by the evidence I have seen albeit fairly anecdotal.
 

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Yes they do.

If there is no evidence of them having been done, move on.
No need to move on really. As long as the belts haven't broken, just make sure you get them done as soon as you buy the car - and knock the price down because of this.
 

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Got mine done yesterday at Heath Road Garage for £395 inc. VAT, that is parts and labour - 4 hours (around £41 per hour inc. VAT).

Mangoletsi are £85 labour per hour


Got other stuff done too - total bill £690 - ouch! but car is great now.
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Have done a search within the forum but couldnt find anything.

Just after a rough idea of cost for replacing cambelts on a 2001 156, 1.8. Its on 62k at the moment but the guy hasnt had them done.

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You suprise me, cambelts, failures and costs for repair or replacement is probably the number one subject on this forum!

Alfa have been slow to change the interval to 36k and should have done it YEARS ago imho. Someone recently commented that the 164 boys knew about this, certainly 155 owners have know this for years...36k and/or 3yrs, and make sure you change the tensioners as they are the real culprit, not the belts.

My 1.8 155 went the full 72k but the tensioner that came off was extremely worn...it's simply not worth the risk of a £1500 bill...so no point arguing ;)

FWI - 145/6 and 155 are not covered by the recent Alfa memo but should be!

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Had mine done at 50K and 88K on my 156 2.0 TS and they needed doing each time - cambelt and variator were worn. I got them done on the 156 GTA which replaced the TS at 53K as soon as I bought it (and I used the car as little as possible before the work was done). As others have said, don't move on but do get it done asap if you buy the car. Go to the Alfa Workshop if that is feasible (see the link earlier in this thread) as they are probably the best price you will find anywhere and are very good.

If you don't get this work done you are risking serious engine damage with much higher costs - just read any of the "broken cambelt" threads on the forum.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

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I phoned Days in Milton Keynes earlier (as thats near where the car is) and had a quote of £264 for all the cambelt work which aint bad. I'd want to get it all done there before i drive the car home (assuming i buy it).

I just hope the guy selling doesnt have the belts go on him in the meantime!!
 
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