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This is appearing intermittently and is there at the start of a journey,and remains until the end of the journey sometimes for a while even with the key removed from the ignition !

Next journey everything is normal if the previous journey was of a reasonable length,if only a short previous journey the message will be there again.

When the message is there climate control reverts to AUTO mode and the only button on the ICS that does anything is the OFF button,allowing to turn climate control off.

There is no way i can find to clear the screen of this message,and while it is there all functions of the ICS are rendered inoperable other than the OFF button allowing me to switch the climate control off/on.

Its seems as though the ICS has lost connection with the 6 CD player and is re establishing it !,or has my ICS just gone faulty?

Thanks for any suggestions in advance:happy:
 

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Have a read here Mocky.
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-164-andamp-166/329468-ics-and-or-sat-nav-issues.html#post4708320

Rang a bell with me however in the distant past .HTH No much other info except on a dutch forum.

Pomeo
Thanks for taking the time to dig that old thread up Pomeo:thumbup,confirms my thoughts that the ICS is shot,it is the original one fitted though so i guess 17 years and 100,000 miles cant complain to much considering all the functions it carries out.

Thinking ahead of the game i purchased a reconditioned boxed ICS off ebay last week for £190.00, happy that even if i did not need it i had a spare as i am planning to keep the car for a while yet.

I have a pair of universal radio removal forks,would one of these be suitable for the two holes on the left of the ICS fascia,or is there a specific removal tool?

Also,once the replacement ICS is installed,and powered up,does it self configure or is there any setting up reqd?

Thanks again in advance for any replies:happy:
 

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I have a pair of universal radio removal forks,would one of these be suitable for the two holes on the left of the ICS fascia,or is there a specific removal tool?

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What a numpty for thinking it was going to be that straight forward!:lol:

Well after finding this thread;

www.alfaowner.com/forum/alfa-164-an...ics-removal-hopefully-a-definitive-guide.html

and having a good read,i decided to have a go at fitting the replacement ICS that i purchased from ebay .

It took me about an hour this morning and no broken bits or damaged trim!

The trickiest bit was locating the metal clip on the right hand side of the ICS with a screwdriver,and then pushing it to release it.After probing around with the screwdriver got lucky and felt the springiness,pushed and released.

With left and right clips released it is then a case of sliding the ICS forward and removing all the plastic multi pin connectors,some of which a bit awkward due to access and being a bit tight after not being moved for 17 years!

The replacement ICS is a year 2002 unit with telephone button at the top and card slot on the right hand side i presume for the NAV,the old ICS being a year 1999 unit without the phone button and slot.

Glad to say that after fitting and reconnecting the battery it was just a case of entering the 4 digit code from the code card,and entering your personal settings for radio etc.

Nice to return to normality again!

Big thanks to the forum and members for your help,could not have done it without you:thumbu p:
 

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The slot is for the SIM card. Back in the day, they were supplied on a carrier the size of a credit card....

The Nav unit is an external CD reader and processor unit that sits in the boot.
 

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The slot is for the SIM card. Back in the day, they were supplied on a carrier the size of a credit card....

The Nav unit is an external CD reader and processor unit that sits in the boot.
Awe Chris ..I didn't want to burst Mockies bubble.
Yes ancient technology away back when BUTT those cards are still sold the same size to fit our old 166 card slots.
Not sure if the new cards are compatible with the box as I have just bought a new Tesco PAYG for the Apple phone and its full size and piggy backs O2 so worth a shot to see IF it works.
IIRC ONLY the old O2 and Vodafone worked...All others didn't

AND the satnav only lasted from 99-01 and no updates available since. unless you stick in a G3.

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Awe Chris ..I didn't want to burst Mockies bubble.
Yes ancient technology away back when BUTT those cards are still sold the same size to fit our old 166 card slots.
Not sure if the new cards are compatible with the box as I have just bought a new Tesco PAYG for the Apple phone and its full size and piggy backs O2 so worth a shot to see IF it works.
IIRC ONLY the old O2 and Vodafone worked...All others didn't

AND the satnav only lasted from 99-01 and no updates available since. unless you stick in a G3.

Pomeo
What is a G3?
I have NAV in mine but I've a few teething problems to trouble shoot first.
And yes I'm back in a 166 as a daily driver woohoo!!!
Bussotastic
 
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G3 was the newest version of the ICS fitted to the cars. Based on your garage list, I suspect you alreqdy have a G3 in your 2001 car.

You can tell for sure by reading the data using the CLIMA + DARK button trick. Can't recall what you are looking for exactly though ;)
 

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What is a G3?
I have NAV in mine but I've a few teething problems to trouble shoot first.
And yes I'm back in a 166 as a daily driver woohoo!!!
Bussotastic
1)That's tap secret one with the long mane. See below as wee don't know
2)Yup some times you just have to be a dentist. Like pulling teeth I say , sometimes naw ALWAYS
3) OH YEZ.:party::party::party::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles:

G3 was the newest version of the ICS fitted to the cars. Based on your garage list, I suspect you alreqdy have a G3 in your 2001 car.

You can tell for sure by reading the data using the CLIMA + DARK button trick. Can't recall what you are looking for exactly though ;)
Hee Hee Hee EH? Whit
No, None of us do but an auld timer a while back named Eshy knew the answer...Or did he :rolf:

Sorry Eshy But oh the memories :thumbup:

Pomeo

But ,Well ewe ken me Mufasa...Grease Tell me more tell me more CF2,CF3 need the gory details and hows the tracky doin? So glad yer back.
 

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1)That's tap secret one with the long mane. See below as wee don't know
2)Yup some times you just have to be a dentist. Like pulling teeth I say , sometimes naw ALWAYS
3) OH YEZ.:party::party::party::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles::italiansmiles:



Hee Hee Hee EH? Whit
No, None of us do but an auld timer a while back named Eshy knew the answer...Or did he :rolf:

Sorry Eshy But oh the memories :thumbup:

Pomeo

But ,Well ewe ken me Mufasa...Grease Tell me more tell me more CF2,CF3 need the gory details and hows the tracky doin? So glad yer back.
Ta much Pomie, I've never left courtesy of my 166 track car!!!:hehe:

Very tidy car, will post pics when washed.
Was sporto but gearbox was broken so swapped for manual.
140K miles but engine is purring.....
 
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