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Who needs dealers to sell cars? Buy them direct on the Web...... Dealers are a bit old school don t you think?
 

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They still come from a dealer even if you buy them on the web....your web trader has to get them from somewhere and its not directly from the importer. I used to supply a couple of online "dealers" with cars when I sold VW Audi. They used to get them at cost (id keep the bonus)...as long as they bought enough cars. They had next to no overheads so were happy just taking a few hundred out of the deal....hence the price they could offer. I would not however do it on sought after cars....just stuff I was struggling to sell!
You will still need a dealer for servicing/warranty.
 

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The infrastructure is probably one reason Dyson gave up on his electric car. All of the support required such as servicing , warranty loan cars etc and sales/lease practices are all likely to be quite complex to build up from nothing compared to shifting boxes with vacuum cleaners in them. That and wanting to be above the Tesla X in price.
 

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And going by the way his vacuum cleaners fall apart he didnt have the confidence to build a car.
 

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They still come from a dealer even if you buy them on the web....your web trader has to get them from somewhere and its not directly from the importer. I used to supply a couple of online "dealers" with cars when I sold VW Audi. They used to get them at cost (id keep the bonus)...as long as they bought enough cars. They had next to no overheads so were happy just taking a few hundred out of the deal....hence the price they could offer. I would not however do it on sought after cars....just stuff I was struggling to sell!
You will still need a dealer for servicing/warranty.
This is interesting in a thread about another dealer has gone. Have we gained anything from being able to buy cheap cheap cheap? No retailer can survive selling making buttons in profit. With servicing period extended, reliability improved, how can a dealer survive? Should we be surprised so many have gone?

Go on say it, how does VW, Audi, BWM and Merc manage it? Just on the volume of cars, all with diddly squat margin?
 

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Carwow etc have haggled the “fat” out of the business that’s required to keep it going. Retail sales are not 100% of the market and the few years isn’t going to get any better as car companies get petrol and diesel cars back from leases and PCP deals. They will possibly be in negative equity..
 

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Unfortunately the power of the Web is revolutionising the way we do things. The result is that traditional companies and industries are being squeezed out. And this is just the beginning.......
 

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Unfortunately the power of the Web is revolutionising the way we do things. The result is that traditional companies and industries are being squeezed out. And this is just the beginning.......
But the impact is what we are seeing here, you can buy the product but cant get it serviced, is that progress?
 

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Electric cars theoretically need less maintenance but the electronics ,which give issues more nowadays , are even more complex.
 

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But the impact is what we are seeing here, you can buy the product but cant get it serviced, is that progress?
Logic makes it progress. It is what the majority want otherwise it would not be happening. It is everywhere. No one wants service, they want cheap. Except coffee which they want lots of and at top prices. Wtf?
 

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That’s why car manufacturers have become Mobility Providers!
You just pay when you use the car.
They tried “providing” BMWs to Uber drivers in the US. They miscalculated the insurance needs for shared use of cars designed for a main user/owner and they’ve just cancelled the scheme. It was probably because they could reduce the supply of used BMW cars and keep up residuals.
 

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Well one of the ex demo Giuliettas from Simonstone's is now on my drive, via the auctions and a local car supermarket. Part chopped the Mito and now the proud owner of a Misano Blue Sport. Alfa No.4!
Strange how these car supermarkets always seem to be throng with customers when the Dealerships are so quiet.
 

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I'm not too impressed by claims by people like Tesla that electric cars are "Almost maintenance free", just don't believe it. Before my current Giulia, I had three Mercedes, two Cs and an E, all the AMG versions. The one I liked best was the second C class, and AMG Coupé. Never actually broke down, but it was severely compromised a couple of times, once in France and once in Germany, electronics both times. When it was healthy I liked it a lot, but it must have cost MB a fortune sorting out the problems under warranty. Worried about future costs and possible unreliability, I got rid of it as soon as the warranty finished, swapping it for a high spec E. Brilliant car but not really right for me, so after a single year, I ditched it for my Alfa, don't ask what that all cost me, I'd bought every car outright, no finance or lease, if you've got the cash why borrow? It's replacement is likely to be either another Mercedes, or possibly a BMW. I've had two Alfas, both were a pleasure to own with very few problems, but as mentioned already, 'my' dealer Hendy have either gone or lost the franchise. Both my Alfas were trouble free, but I wouldn't buy a new car without a franchised dealer within a reasonable distance. Let's be honest, Alfas do have a bit of a 'reputation', and I'm not taking chances. Annoyingly, I do have Autolusso about 10 miles away, and of course I'd happily leave everything to them, but they couldn't deal with warranty claims on a new one.
 

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I do envy those who complain their nearest dealer/indie is 20/30 minutes away
There is no dealer in the whole of Lincolnshire. In a sense I am luck in that Scunthorpe is close to the Yorkshire boundary but it is still 25/30 miles to either Hull (Jordans) or Doncaster )Pentagon) both at least 45 minutes neither of which are long term dealers and I wonder how clued up the service teams are on AR.
My nearest Indie is Northern Alfa at Oldcotes 55 minutes away which usually puts about 80 miles on the car by the time Gareth has run you into Tickhill to find somewhere to kill time as he doesn't have any waiting facilities.
Tony, you as well as i, should realise that what we lack in this area in Alfa dealerships, we more than benefit from with the expertise and professionalism of Gareth at Northern Alfa.
Even if he is further away than we would like.
That cafe at the garden centre in Tickhill is very tasty also..
 

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No full Alfa dealer in Wales for nearly 3 yrs, pathetic. I have asked FCA and all i get is they are looking very hard. I have no idea now Bristol has gone how far i may have to go now??

If i wanted to buy a car from the competion i just have to go a few miles, no wonder they are not selling.
 

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The servicing is done by whom?
Those places cost money to run and provide a lot of the ownership satisfaction if run properly.
 

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Alfa romeo appointed or specialist in dependant garage? Could be done by fitters with remote alfa support. I mean they can do open heart surgery in Bristol with consultant operating in Newcastle.... Don't see why changing oil and filters require main dealer expertise. Anyway why does the retailer and the service provider need to be the same entity? I mean £1,600 for set of injectors and reprogramming at vauxhall for an insignia diesel, appantly won't work unless all 4 injectors are replaced. I dependant diesel specialist £150 for new injector seal, car fixed. Dealer satisfaction sure, customer fully ripped off.......local Ford dealer £125 per hour labour plus vat.... Wtf is that all about?
 
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