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After looking at the images in this thread, I was on the verge of ordering an Evoque, but then I read that they are of a mule cobbled together from bits of an old Fiat 500 and not a camouflaged prototype. Phew!

Do hope the new Alfa SUV has a bit of style like the Evoque and the X4 and doesn't end up looking like a van with windows a la Touran and X3.
 

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Evoque. Or F-Pace.

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As said on the other thread in the Guilia lounge, if that's the new AR SUV
then it'll be stillborn with a boot that small and a non-premium interior.
More likely a new Panda?
 

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Anyone who thinks Alfa shouldnt make one read this........


Automotive News Europe
January 7, 2016 06:01 CET

European demand for compact SUVs will continue to grow strongly in the midterm as new and updated models are added to the sector, segment-leader Nissan and analysts predict.

“What has surprised us is how robust the segment has been,” Nissan Europe Chairman Paul Willcox told Automotive News Europe. “Now everyone is coming in. The market will continue to grow.”

Sales in the segment are on track to grow by 200,000 this year to 1.9 million and rise to 2.2 million by 2020, analysts at IHS Automotive predict.

The segment is benefiting from a lot of fresh models. Nissan’s sector-leading second-generation Qashqai debuted in early 2014. Renault launched the all-new Kadjar in late 2015 and Hyundai replaced the ix35 with the Tucson in the second half of last year. Those two key arrivals helped boost compact SUVs to a 26 percent share of Europe’s overall SUV market in October compared with 24 percent during the same period in 2014, figures from analyst JATO Dynamics show.

Sales and market share for compact SUVs are poised to keep rising this year because of the arrival of the new generations of the Volkswagen Tiguan and Kia Sportage and the refreshed Ford Kuga. This means all models in the segment’s top five will have undergone some level of significant upgrade within the last two years, making it one of Europe’s most competitive vehicle classes.

‘Room for everyone’

What’s unique about the compact SUV segment is that, unlike in other sectors in Europe, premium models are not at an advantage over their mass-market competitors.

“Compact SUV sales are less affected by the premium brands because it is a massive growth segment and, put simply, there is room for everyone to claim a piece of the action at the moment,” IHS analyst Tim Urquhart told Automotive News Europe. If premium compact SUVs were folded into the volume segment the Q3 would have ranked sixth with the Mercedes-Benz GLA at No. 7 and the Range Rover Evoque rounding out the top 10, based on JATO’s figures.

Customers in this segment typically place a higher value on design than they do on the badge. “Styling is the No. 1 reason for buying it,” Hyundai UK boss Tony Whitehorn said of the Tucson. He told Automotive News Europe that the UK is currently the biggest European market for the Tucson, but it also is doing well across Europe, finishing sixth in JATO’s October sales numbers. If Tucson and ix35 sales were combined Hyundai would have ranked third based on 10-month sales in the segment.

Top markets

Car buyers in the UK were on pace late last year to purchase 330,000 volume and premium compact SUVs in 2015 to narrowly beat customers in Germany. The UK also is expected to be Europe’s largest market for the vehicles in 2016 and 2017, based on IHS Automotive forecasts.

One of the key drivers behind this is the strong demand for the UK-built Qashqai, which is produced in Sunderland, England. The Qashqai accounted for nearly a quarter of all compact SUV sales in the UK, JATO’s 10-month figures showed. The Qashqai is also the top-selling compact SUV in France, Spain and Italy. One exception is Germany, where the Tiguan is tops.

Nissan executives believe the Qashqai would be even more successful in Europe if it could have produced more. “We’ve been up against the limits of manufacturing capacity in Sunderland. We could have sold more,” Willcox said. Last month Nissan started building Qashqais in Russia to meet local demand, a move that will help reduce pressure on its plant in northeast England.

The Renault Kadjar, which shares its underpinnings with the Qashqai, is also poised to have a strong 2016 after its hot sales start last year. By October the Kadjar ranked at France’s No. 2 compact SUV just five months after its sales started. Renault is expected to sell 134,000 Kadjars in Europe this year, according to an IHS forecast.

New Tiguan

VW’s Tiguan was expected to finish 2015 with 160,000 sales and increase its European volume to nearly 180,000 in 2016 with the arrival of the new-generation model, IHS predicts. The new Tiguan was revealed at the Frankfurt auto show along with news that it will be available in three different versions: sports, off-road and a classic on-road model. That Tiguan will share its MQB platform with a pair of models from sister brands Skoda and Seat. Those models also will debut this year.

A report from German car magazine Autobild in early December predicted that Skoda’s model, dubbed the Snowman in media reports, would be revealed at the Paris auto show in the autumn and sit above the Yeti, which ranked sixth in Europe’s 10-month sales chart.

Meanwhile Seat’s unnamed compact SUV will feature a styling that is “less off-roadish” and “more emotional,” Juergen Stackmann told journalists last year before moving from Seat CEO to VW brand’s global sales chief in October.

Seat’s first SUV could be followed by a larger model, which was previewed by the 20v20 concept at the 2015 Geneva auto show, Stackmann said.

Opel/Vauxhall, which flopped with the Korea-built Antara, is the biggest European automaker without a competitive compact SUV. The General Motors unit plans to re-enter the segment in 2017 with a crossover that also will replace the Zafira compact minivan.

“It will be a nice combination of minivan with SUV looks. It means we are playing into the family car market,” former Vauxhall head Tim Tozer said prior to resigning from the company in October.
 

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Anyone who thinks Alfa shouldnt make one read this........


Automotive News Europe
January 7, 2016 06:01 CET

European demand for compact SUVs will continue to grow strongly in the midterm as new and updated models are added to the sector, segment-leader Nissan and analysts predict.

“What has surprised us is how robust the segment has been,” Nissan Europe Chairman Paul Willcox told Automotive News Europe. “Now everyone is coming in. The market will continue to grow.”

Sales in the segment are on track to grow by 200,000 this year to 1.9 million and rise to 2.2 million by 2020, analysts at IHS Automotive predict.

The segment is benefiting from a lot of fresh models. Nissan’s sector-leading second-generation Qashqai debuted in early 2014. Renault launched the all-new Kadjar in late 2015 and Hyundai replaced the ix35 with the Tucson in the second half of last year. Those two key arrivals helped boost compact SUVs to a 26 percent share of Europe’s overall SUV market in October compared with 24 percent during the same period in 2014, figures from analyst JATO Dynamics show.

Sales and market share for compact SUVs are poised to keep rising this year because of the arrival of the new generations of the Volkswagen Tiguan and Kia Sportage and the refreshed Ford Kuga. This means all models in the segment’s top five will have undergone some level of significant upgrade within the last two years, making it one of Europe’s most competitive vehicle classes.

‘Room for everyone’

What’s unique about the compact SUV segment is that, unlike in other sectors in Europe, premium models are not at an advantage over their mass-market competitors.

“Compact SUV sales are less affected by the premium brands because it is a massive growth segment and, put simply, there is room for everyone to claim a piece of the action at the moment,” IHS analyst Tim Urquhart told Automotive News Europe. If premium compact SUVs were folded into the volume segment the Q3 would have ranked sixth with the Mercedes-Benz GLA at No. 7 and the Range Rover Evoque rounding out the top 10, based on JATO’s figures.

Customers in this segment typically place a higher value on design than they do on the badge. “Styling is the No. 1 reason for buying it,” Hyundai UK boss Tony Whitehorn said of the Tucson. He told Automotive News Europe that the UK is currently the biggest European market for the Tucson, but it also is doing well across Europe, finishing sixth in JATO’s October sales numbers. If Tucson and ix35 sales were combined Hyundai would have ranked third based on 10-month sales in the segment.

Top markets

Car buyers in the UK were on pace late last year to purchase 330,000 volume and premium compact SUVs in 2015 to narrowly beat customers in Germany. The UK also is expected to be Europe’s largest market for the vehicles in 2016 and 2017, based on IHS Automotive forecasts.

One of the key drivers behind this is the strong demand for the UK-built Qashqai, which is produced in Sunderland, England. The Qashqai accounted for nearly a quarter of all compact SUV sales in the UK, JATO’s 10-month figures showed. The Qashqai is also the top-selling compact SUV in France, Spain and Italy. One exception is Germany, where the Tiguan is tops.

Nissan executives believe the Qashqai would be even more successful in Europe if it could have produced more. “We’ve been up against the limits of manufacturing capacity in Sunderland. We could have sold more,” Willcox said. Last month Nissan started building Qashqais in Russia to meet local demand, a move that will help reduce pressure on its plant in northeast England.

The Renault Kadjar, which shares its underpinnings with the Qashqai, is also poised to have a strong 2016 after its hot sales start last year. By October the Kadjar ranked at France’s No. 2 compact SUV just five months after its sales started. Renault is expected to sell 134,000 Kadjars in Europe this year, according to an IHS forecast.

New Tiguan

VW’s Tiguan was expected to finish 2015 with 160,000 sales and increase its European volume to nearly 180,000 in 2016 with the arrival of the new-generation model, IHS predicts. The new Tiguan was revealed at the Frankfurt auto show along with news that it will be available in three different versions: sports, off-road and a classic on-road model. That Tiguan will share its MQB platform with a pair of models from sister brands Skoda and Seat. Those models also will debut this year.

A report from German car magazine Autobild in early December predicted that Skoda’s model, dubbed the Snowman in media reports, would be revealed at the Paris auto show in the autumn and sit above the Yeti, which ranked sixth in Europe’s 10-month sales chart.

Meanwhile Seat’s unnamed compact SUV will feature a styling that is “less off-roadish” and “more emotional,” Juergen Stackmann told journalists last year before moving from Seat CEO to VW brand’s global sales chief in October.

Seat’s first SUV could be followed by a larger model, which was previewed by the 20v20 concept at the 2015 Geneva auto show, Stackmann said.

Opel/Vauxhall, which flopped with the Korea-built Antara, is the biggest European automaker without a competitive compact SUV. The General Motors unit plans to re-enter the segment in 2017 with a crossover that also will replace the Zafira compact minivan.

“It will be a nice combination of minivan with SUV looks. It means we are playing into the family car market,” former Vauxhall head Tim Tozer said prior to resigning from the company in October.
Alfa dropped a clanger back in 2003 when they didnt produce the Kamal following its prototype at Geneva. I doubt they would be in the mess they are in if they followed it through. - They must be kicking themselves!
 

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Alfa dropped a clanger back in 2003 when they didnt produce the Kamal following its prototype at Geneva. I doubt they would be in the mess they are in if they followed it through. - They must be kicking themselves!
And I was one of those dinosaurs who back in 2003 thought " WTF".

Now I've buried my ill-founded prejudices and just hope they don't come out with a sow's ear and have a front more like Giulia rather than other recent offerings.
 

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Ive just bought a 16 reg Evoque and it is a lovely car - I am hoping the Alfa SUV will be able to tempt me away from it in a couple of years.
The new Alfa SUV will have no problem tempting me away from my Evoque which I bought three weeks ago. It's spent the last two weeks back at the dealers with still no indication of when I will get it back.
 

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Have you taken this up with JLR directly? If you go on EwokMoaners.com there's
a JLR rep who gets back to people, want me to try and find his email?
Yes Nev, I've been on that forum, they don't like it when I tell them I can't wait for the Alfa SUV as I want to get back to something reliable.

I've been in contact with the JLR rep (Ryan) daily since last Wednesday and he has at least got the ball rolling.

Just been promised it will be back tomorrow. :paranoid:
 

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Okay well good luck.

I deleted from EwokMoaners: They just seemed to moan all the time about the tiniest things.
Which kind of belittles the real major issues that did/do occur, like yours.

I felt sorry for Ryan.
 

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Yes, it was returned yesterday.

Apparently, a piece of wiring harness that runs over the engine is prone to fraying (after 1700 miles?) on the new Ingenium engine.

All is good for now thanks.
 

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Hang on.

That's what they were all moaning about on Ewok moaners back in September/Oct/Nov:
That some of their new lease cars were all being delayed to get a retrofit bracket or
loom protection or somesuch to do with engine -> harness clearances .
Obviously you got on unfixed one.:(
Hopefully the 'moaners will see that the delays in delivery were of some use
after all.



Glad it's fixed now !! :thumbs:



Enjoy. Get it in the mud a bit. ;)
 
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