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Hi all,

Looking at getting a new car and in particular a Alfa Romeo GT JTD however i currently have a 500 mile a week commute to work, and work colleges/ car salesman etc are giving me the 'you must be mad you'll never be at work' comments regarding the Alfa's reliability.

Now im not one that looks into this online or common knowledge reliability issues ive had nothing but french cars since passing my test and *touch wood* have never broken down.(current car is a Citroen C4 VTR+ Coupe 1.6HDi with 140bhp remap) I just love the 'personality' you seem to get through the car that you just dont get from a focus/golf etc - which is why a alfa appeals!

I do however need to get to work everyday and cant afford to have constant problems.

From my research the JTD engine is the same engine as vauxhalls CDTI and Saabs TID - both of which ive always read and thought of as reliable so was hoping the Alfa is to

How do you as owners rate your cars and more importantly how reliable have they been?

Many thanks
Lee
 
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The 1.9JTD GT would be perfect for you. Great economy, great looks (which all your mates will be jealous of) and a great drive. Get a remap and you will be leaving a lot of other cars eating your dust and even helping your economy when you're not booting it.

Yes, the engine is very strong and durable and yes, it is the same as that in Saabs, Fiats and Vauxhalls. It's a very good engine.
 

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so far (hope i dont curse myself!) 2 of my friends have brought cars around the same time as me and so far mines the most reliable, my friends BMW needed a new G/box and a number of things and now the damn thing only wants to turn left!! I must admit I have been a little smug after all the comments i had before i brought the car.....
Buy one and enjoy it like 99% of alfa owners do ;)
 

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I have a 156 with the same 1.9 16v jtd (150bhp) and the 156-147 and GT are pretty much the same cars mechanically and chassis wise.
Mine has a tuning box and goes like stink.
cracking engine and faults seem to be around the Maf sensor and EGR valves, I also changed the thermostat my car has done 110k miles and is more reliable than my girlfriends 307 HDi (90) which suffer from low and high pressure faults and as i type this I think the high pressure pump has failed on the 307 at 77k miles. Having owned and worked on numerous renaults and several citroen and peugeot petrol/ diesels I can say that Alfa's are probably as or more reliable, but it all depends on the car and how it has been treated- as with all cars. Many car manufacturers-models are labelled as reliable eg VW golf tdi but my friends mk 4 is a nightmare for issues mechanical and electrical and makes my Alfa look very reliable. Renault DCi's suffer premature 6speed gearbox failure and many engine failures ebay is littered with them.
My thoughts on the Alfa is that it tends to be non critical components, maf suspension squeeks, thermostats and egr carboning up etc.
I would certainly not worry about issues coming from French cars, for reliability i'd go japanese, but again even Honda mechanics dont sit around just doing servicing all day.

My opinion on the car is great and chose the Alfa after having a fiat punto with the shared 1.9 8v jtd (80bhp) the punto has now passed through my family and never goes wrong with minimal servicing - tell a lie it needed a tensioner for the aux belt at 115k miles. I chose the Alfa for other peoples ignorance having a car that looks better than my dads new 3 series 320d and drives very similar. my 05 plate cost about 3k and looks 3x this cost and drives superbly.

sorry to rant on but i think the alfa jtd's are great engines and cars.
 

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In 4 yrs, and now on 88k, i've had the MAF go and the usual egr getting clogged -which i've now blanked off.

Just recently changed the upper wishbones for the first time. GT is now 5 yrs old, so pretty good. Pretty easy to service yourself if you're into it. Had loads of help from here too.

Standard (non bose) stereo is pants, so changed it for an alpine with some alpine speakers in the front. Big improvement.

Still loving it 4 yrs on.
 

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A big percentage of the british population still think of the alfa's of the 70's and 80's where they had big issues with reliability. Things have come along way since then. My GT has been a great car bar a clutch pin breaking off at the worst possible moment! The GT is one of the best kept secrets in driving enjoyment today. It really ticks every box. Looks economy, practical. I also need a reliable car for my job, and with the 1.9jtd engine you cannot go wrong. I just had mine remapped with angel tuning and it is astounding and still manages 53mpg when I'm chilling along. Hen you buy, let a good specialist service her and take a look at her. Ned at autolusso has serviced my GT and now I feel confident she is mechanically sound. Its good piece of mind. I honestly think the GT is one of the best most enjoyable beautiful cars I have ever owned.
Damien.
 

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For a tractor engine it's pretty good, surprisingly quick (even in 150bhp form like mine) and touch wood has been reliable since I've owned it (well apart from a sticking oil PRV and corroded oil cooler pipe ((common))

The interior rattles will drive you mad though, all fixable though of course ;)
 

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In order for me to answer your question, I must stick a bit of punctuation into the guy's name as per post #6:

ALFA? DO IT!!!
 

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Alfa Do It :thumbs:

You won't regret it :D
 

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I just drove mine from Essex to Brunssum in Holland, about 500km and didn't want to stop.;)

Looks, economy, speed and handling these cars are amazing.:thumbs:

Biggest problem is your Boss having to use a crowbar to pry you out of it.:lol:
 
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On my 4th ALFA.
#1 Black T plate 156 2.5V6 - ran out of talent and wrote her off (upside down in a field)
#2 Red S plate 156 2.5V6 - great car except when cambelt went en route to Scotland (despite FSH) - replaced engine then a few months after I part ex at Mangoletsi for #3
#3 Red 05 plate GT 3.2V6 - fab car for about a year then gearbox destroyed itself when pulling away at a junction, £3K later it was re-built but they did advise the water pump was leaking (tiny amount) and did I want to replace it while the engine was out of the car? Decided not to. Wish I had though. A month or so later she started overheating and nothing would fix it. Part ex her for an Audi A4 2.0TDi Estate which I had for a year until a stupid person wrote her off at a junction (cut corner off and didn't bother looking to see me STATIONERY waiting for the impending impact). Insurance company wrote it off and after some haggling I got about £1600 more than I effectively paid for it. Had a courtesy car for a month (Mercedes B class - THE worst car I've driven in a long time) during which I gave in to the ALFA bug again :mad:)
#4 Black 06 plate GT 1.9JTDm (sensible engine I thought with reasonable performance and economy) low miles <40K and a good price bought privately, negotiated it down a bit owing to a few jobs that needed doing which I've "almost" worked through.
Radio not working as code lost after battery change - new DAB radio fitted by Halfords (still not quite right owing to aerial issues - to be continued)
Strange discolouration on side of tan leather drivers seat - sorted by professional leather company
Whistling noise from passenger side - missing screw on mirror gaffer taped over (thanks forum!)
Wind noise from drivers side - window glass not raising into door frame cured by adjusting glass
Stiff drivers door handle wouldn't spring back after opening - loosened screw at end of door and seemed to be ok ish although the whole thing was a little loose. UNTIL SUNDAY when the handle stopped working altogether :mad:( - still to be fixed but as most people on here know, they're on back order from Italy with no delivery date. Have looked to see if I can change the handle myself but even after reading guides on here I cannot fathom how it's done.

Anyway back to the question ...

I commute Derby to Crewe and back every day which is > 500 miles per week and she's more than happy with that!!! Reliability as such has never been an issue with Alfa's for me - it's the niggling things that can seriously ****** you off and spoil your enjoyment BUT pound for pound what else is there out there that looks as beautiful for the money?? She looks like a mini Veyron in my eyes and is one the best looking yet practical (it's a hatchback with fold down rear seats FFS!) cars there is.

GO FOR IT!!

Other jobs to do on mine ...
Not too happy with the 16" wheels with 205 tyres and want to go for at least 18" x 225 or even 19" x 255 :mad:)
Xenon headlamps? Look good on the Veloces website
Wondered what a blacked out front grille would look like?
Engine chip thing - £300 ish for another 30 ish BHP sounds like a winner

Happy to receive comments on the above!
 

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I do around 400 miles a week, have owned Alfas for the past 10 years or so and NEVER been late for work in all that time.

Your colleague's warnings are just masking their "potential jealousy" mode.

Like ANY secondhand car, just make sure you get a good 'un. There's plenty about.

Nuff said.
 

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Shop around for a good one and you won't go far wrong. ;)
 

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Had a Q2 Cloverleaf one for about 2 weeks and I really enjoyed it. It was a step back in terms of fit and finish from my 159 but the Q2 together with the 1.9 JTDm engine was a winner :thumbs:
 

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i have a 2.2 mondeo Tdci which cost £7000 which is meant to be a reliable car the EGR valve has gone a wheel bearing along with other bits and pieces, Now i own a 156 2.5v6 as a toy for me i wish i had not been scared off by the old ITS A ALFA IT WILL BREAK ALL THE TIME and got a GT instead such a sexy looking car.
 

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Three words, Aye Do It!
 

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Yep, Had mine for over 2 years now, only thing that's gone wrong is a windscreen-wiper mount failed, which was fixed under warranty.
I had mine remapped by RedDot. Nothing crazy, but it went from 150-185 bhp & a fair more whack of torque.
Its a lovely, mile-eating car. Comfy, you can get 2 people in the back OK, + 40-45mpg, good looks & it isn't a BM or Audi.
The reliability of Alfa's is definitely on the up, although admittedly Alfa's of old cold be a bit iffy in that dept. Like most cars nowadays, you can be lucky or unlucky. There is a buyers guide on this forum & I think it's a very useful read.
Really can't see a downside.
Matt.
 
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