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hi all,

just thought i would see if anyone has ran a diesel alfa for a while.

been without an alfa for too long and looking to an oil burner due to the mileage i do.

which are the best ones to own? whats the performance like? do they cost a lot to service including the belts etc? oh yes and what do they do to the gallon, currently getting 38-40 mpg for my mondeo tdci driven briskly :cheese:

any help with this topic would be most helpful.

many thanks

alan....................alan-alfa
 

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2.4JTD 10v before map 45mpg on 45 miles run to work. No fuss cruiser.
Same car after Angel tuning remap 45 mpg, No fuss cruiser overtakes for fun, you start using higher gears to strech the drama out a touch.

I brought abit of a lemon new (recon) turbo £500 dealer part paid, New clutch and oil service £600. Needs the cambelt etc doing now so looking around £550 inc full service. Shocks on the way out going to upgrade to Koni sport £400 + fitting (Mates rates) £70. Please remeber mines a 2001 y on 104k

Would recommend one. I have no experience of the 1.9 16v or 2.4 20v

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Imho 1.9 jtdm 16v is better engine that 2.0 ts
 

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I have a 156 with the 1.9 JTD 16v engine, and it is fantastic! I'm not a great fan of diesels. much prefer a V6 petrol any day, but due to my daily commute I went diesel when I bought my 156.
It has plenty of power for over taking, and I'm getting just over 50mpg on my daily commute, with mid to high 50's if I take it steady on a long journey. I'm sure both the fuel economy and extra power from a remap would be good too.
I have had my car over a year now and I still look forward to driving.
Running cost wise, I had a service at 100k cost approx £130, a blown turbo hose, cost approx £75 and a few weeks ago (106K) a new clutch, cost £565.
Hope this is of sum help!
I can thoroughly recommend an Alfa diesel.:thumbs:
 

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My 156 Sport has the 1.9 JTD 16v with 150bhp. This has the lovely 6-speed Alfa gearbox, such a joy to use. Acceleration in 3rd/4th/5th is powerful and relentless, yet in 6th you can cruise at 70mph with only 1,950 rpm. On long journeys I get 54mpg, on very long trips I have achieved just under 60mpg.

This being my first diesel (having driven petrol Alfas continuously since 1978, and continue to do so with my Spider TS Lusso), I am extremely impressed with my Alfa 156 JTD Sport:)
 

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:lol::) I've got a 2.4 10v sportwagon. recon it will average 48-49mpg on a fast motorway run and drops down to 42-44 on commuting trips or thrashing it, Sounds absolutely fantastic when revved above 2800 and makes me smile every time I drive it, sometimes turn radio off to listen to engine, I got a full belt and tensioner kit for £153 & water pump for £26 (+ vat)from Alternative Auto's and had them fitted at local independent for around £200 last year, the only other problem was the thermostat which made the engine run cool which I changed myself in around three hours and that cost about 50 quid.
Before this car I had a Stilo 1.9 Jtd which is essentially the same engine as Alfa use and had no problems with that, it averaged 49-53 mpg depending (strangely!) which brand of fuel you used, that went well nad sounded quite good and like the 156 ate motorway miles with no fuss, I do believe you should change the water pump at the same time as the cambelt as they can fail

My next car eventually will be a 159 Jtdm 20v Sportwagon.....I've caught the Alfa bug:)
 

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2.4 20v M jet only way to go! Very quick and very good on fuel, I have got 60+ mph when trying, 50+ more usual, 40+ when booting it! Best all round oil burner on the market. GM 6 speed lets it down, more so when cold.
 

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add on a good remap and you will love it.

Rev range will be smooth & turbo spool up is quick
 

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thanks for the info

think it will be an alfa diesel this time:)

had the mondeo for 3 1/2 years and done over 65K in that time, so time for a change.

thanks for the help and will now start the quest for a 156 jtd sportwagon

alan-alfa

ps any takers for a 130 zetec tdci mondeo???
 

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Hi Alan, I have the base 156 1.9JTD Turismo model. It was remapped by the original owner (I'm the second owner). Although i have no personal experience of the 2.4 engine, the Alfa specialist who services my car tells me that my car is the equal of the 2.4 and probably better as nose is not as heavy and corners better. My Alfa will be 5 years old in October, and i have had her for the last three years. I have cleared over 100000 miles with next to no problems with the car ( replaced thermostat, radiator and battery). It will clear 550 miles from a full tank when driven lively ;) and will get 650 if driven a bit more sedately :rolleyes:.

My view, fantastic car fantastic engine :thumbs:



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hi Alan

I have a 159 1.9jtd, without the mapp. I cover a lot of motorway miles in it and I average around 42-47mpg, all depends how you want drive it as you'd expect, if you floor it your going to pay for it more.
Just had its 36K service by Mangoletsi cost £172, which for a dealer service wasnt that bad. Mango's are also doing an offer on servicing at the mo for cars 3y/o and older, services ranging from £110 to £170 for full service (diesel and petrol)
Reliability hasnt been an issue, its my 2nd diesel alfa, (previousley owned a 147 1.9jtd - 94K on the clock and I had virtually no problems with that one either)
I would recommend a diesel Alfa to anyone covering high mileage.

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While I don't have a diesel (and wont have unless I have to cover really big milage some day) I'd go for the 1,9 16V. 2,4's are also nice but are less economical and why have a diesel then? ;) I tried several 159 1,9's and 2,4's and I think 1,9 have got as much power as you need while still getting decent mpg. Obviously 2,4 pulls harder but it's somehow "boring" still so save the money and consider having a petrol Alfa for the weekends :)
Btw I don't suppose you do a lot of city driving but you do have to change gears a lot.
 

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Hi Alan,

I've got a 156 1.9 jtd 16v mjet (140bhp) its been pretty reliable. Only had to replace the alternator, cambelt and waterpump so pretty standard stuff on the engine. Does about 50mpg even with spirited driving. Actually does more and is quicker with bp ultimate although don't have an exact figure yet as have only just started using it in the last three weeks.
 

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Alan,

I've had the 150bhp 10v 2.4 and now the facelift 175bhp 20v. Both very good. 10v is more economically, but the 20v is significantly faster in-gear. Had both remapped. mpg improved, but 10v was ~50mpg, 20v ~45mpg. I do London -> Amsterdam and London -> Lyon a lot. I average about 600 miles a tank. Both SW as I prefer the shape....
 

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I have run a 156 SW 1.9 16v 140bhp diesel for about a year now, and apart from a big bill for the clutch and flywheel,I'm very happy with it. The diesel engine is in my opinion about a s good as you get. I've driven alot of company hire cars and the ones with this unit always get the thumbs up. My only complaint about the 156 is that in the tourismo trim the suspension is a little too soft for my liking. I suspect I need a new thermostat as i only get around 42-46 depending on type of driving, and the temp stays at 70.
 
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