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HELLO FORUM,

as the title says i just got my first car (alfa romeo 147 1.6 tspark 2005 in a sexy sexy light blue). It has some problems which i wasn't aware of until after the sale (i bought it last saturday). then there are some mods I would like to carry out on it and would like some advice. Below i'll list what needs fixing and what I'd like to mod. All suggestions are much appreciated.

Essential fixes:
1. Rear middle seat belt is stuck, wont extend at all. I tried to pull it but no matter how i do it, it won't budge.
2. The car horn doesn't work (I knew of this problem before I got it).

Non essential fixes:
3. The interior door handles are super sticky and have this crap that seems to just come off it. will acetone and elbow grease do the trick or will I need to use something else?
3.5. best way to clean marks off leather seats without damaging it?

mods:
4. I already bought a stereo head unit which should come on friday along with the faceplates adapters etc. stereo unit is the sony dsxa410bt but i would like to change out the speakers so I would like your recommendations on which speakers to buy for this stereo head unit. Are they even worth replacing? I can spend £100ish on this but if u think its worth spending more im all ears for suggestions (audio is very important to me and while i cant afford a nice underseat subwoofer for now I plan to get one in the far future so I'd like to keep my options open).
5. Interior and console. I want to paint/vinyl wrap the main console as I don't fancy the colour. Also there's a lot of grey going on in my car so I want to remove the fake leather wrap on the dash and top side of the door panels then replace it with black faux leather vinyl wrap. create some contrasting colours inside ;) I've not done any sort of work like this so I need help on where to get supplies and how to actually carry it out (the latter can be explained later when I actually get there ahaha). I'll need to peel off the old grey stuff how would i do that?

id like to do 3, 4 and 5 together so i wont need to remove the door cards on seperate occasions.

6. I want a stubby aeriel, any suggestions for that?
7. My car doesnt have a spoiler and it looks well too round for my liking from behind so any recommendations on what one to get? Id like to spend less than 50 for this

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any other mod suggestions would be much appreciated. ooo just remembered my car doesnt have original mats so id like a good suggestion to what mat i should get. Also i found an unplugged wire in the engine bay ive attached a photo, any ideas (hoping its for the horn ahaha)?

more pics of my car can be seen on this ebay listing at the very bottom.

Thank you everyone!

 

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Congrats on the purchase!! A few answers below:

HELLO FORUM,

as the title says i just got my first car (alfa romeo 147 1.6 tspark 2005 in a sexy sexy light blue). It has some problems which i wasn't aware of until after the sale (i bought it last saturday). then there are some mods I would like to carry out on it and would like some advice. Below i'll list what needs fixing and what I'd like to mod. All suggestions are much appreciated.

Essential fixes:
1. Rear middle seat belt is stuck, wont extend at all. I tried to pull it but no matter how i do it, it won't budge. Same thing happened with my old 147, the rear seat bases flip forward and reveal where the seal belts are bolted to the chassis. For me the pre-tensioner had simply stuck in a position where it wouldn't move. I unbolted it, which freed it and it returned to normal. Have a go at this first - 17mm bolt if memory serves (don't hold me to that) :D

2. The car horn doesn't work (I knew of this problem before I got it). Hard to come by new at the moment it seems but a specialist will have one - Autolusso – Alfa Romeo Specialists - for example (give them a bell, they break cars too)

Non essential fixes:
3. The interior door handles are super sticky and have this crap that seems to just come off it. will acetone and elbow grease do the trick or will I need to use something else? Yep, the coating is terrible - Sticky Rubber Deteriorated? Centre Console - This should help

3.5. best way to clean marks off leather seats without damaging it? If it's just grime and dirt then warm water and a soft cloth will get the worst off. Then something like Renapur to condition the leather once it's fully clean. Works for me anyhow.

mods:
4. I already bought a stereo head unit which should come on friday along with the faceplates adapters etc. stereo unit is the sony dsxa410bt but i would like to change out the speakers so I would like your recommendations on which speakers to buy for this stereo head unit. Are they even worth replacing? I can spend £100ish on this but if u think its worth spending more im all ears for suggestions (audio is very important to me and while i cant afford a nice underseat subwoofer for now I plan to get one in the far future so I'd like to keep my options open). For my 147 I upgraded to the factory Bose system as it fits perfectly (about £135 plus a couple of days of your time), but it's old and not that great, but is still better than standard. Plenty of options in the aftermarket but I don't know too much about these. Someone on the forum will know more... Most go aftermarket as it gives you greater options with Bluetooth and all that, there are fascia kits you can get so that the centre console matches - Alfa Romeo 147, GT Dark Grey Car Stereo Fascia Panel Stalk Fitting Kit - like this one...

One thing I do know just to prepare you. The doors on a 147 (front if a 5-door) and a GT have sacrificial covers on the inner door handles as there is a bolt behind them (part number 71775574) - Alfa Romeo 147 Door Handle - Also, take care with the window switch, they are brittle, expensive and there is a hidden screw underneath the door armrest. I learned the hard way... :cautious:


5. Interior and console. I want to paint/vinyl wrap the main console as I don't fancy the colour. Also there's a lot of grey going on in my car so I want to remove the fake leather wrap on the dash and top side of the door panels then replace it with black faux leather vinyl wrap. create some contrasting colours inside ;) I've not done any sort of work like this so I need help on where to get supplies and how to actually carry it out (the latter can be explained later when I actually get there ahaha). I'll need to peel off the old grey stuff how would i do that? If you mean the main leathery portion of the dash then that's quite tough. It's a leather effect material with a layer of foam underneath. Horrible task to remove that. Door components can be re-covered and I'm sure there's a post on this somewhere... have a look around and see what you find. Plastic coating in a new colour is doable - never done it myself but someone on here will have...

id like to do 3, 4 and 5 together so i wont need to remove the door cards on seperate occasions. There's a few examples where owners got very creative with their audio, sod's law I can't find them right now :LOL:

6. I want a stubby aeriel, any suggestions for that? See Partsworld - Short Aerial Mast - Alfa 147, GT & Spider - (y)

7. My car doesnt have a spoiler and it looks well too round for my liking from behind so any recommendations on what one to get? Id like to spend less than 50 for this - No idea, factory fitted ones were fixed through the windscreen so you'd be looked at something in the aftermarket. Sadly mine had a spoiler so I can't help in that regard.

any other mod suggestions would be much appreciated. ooo just remembered my car doesnt have original mats so id like a good suggestion to what mat i should get. Also i found an unplugged wire in the engine bay ive attached a photo, any ideas (hoping its for the horn ahaha)? Partsworld have some mats if you like them - Alfa Romeo 147 Internal Parts & Fittings - Make friends with your genuine parts suppliers, you will be rewarded in the long run - Some links below to help (y):cool:


Thank you everyone!


Hope this helps. Best of luck and enjoy your purchase (y)
 

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Congrats on the purchase!! A few answers below:

HELLO FORUM,

as the title says i just got my first car (alfa romeo 147 1.6 tspark 2005 in a sexy sexy light blue). It has some problems which i wasn't aware of until after the sale (i bought it last saturday). then there are some mods I would like to carry out on it and would like some advice. Below i'll list what needs fixing and what I'd like to mod. All suggestions are much appreciated.

Essential fixes:
1. Rear middle seat belt is stuck, wont extend at all. I tried to pull it but no matter how i do it, it won't budge. Same thing happened with my old 147, the rear seat bases flip forward and reveal where the seal belts are bolted to the chassis. For me the pre-tensioner had simply stuck in a position where it wouldn't move. I unbolted it, which freed it and it returned to normal. Have a go at this first - 17mm bolt if memory serves (don't hold me to that) :D

2. The car horn doesn't work (I knew of this problem before I got it). Hard to come by new at the moment it seems but a specialist will have one - Autolusso – Alfa Romeo Specialists - for example (give them a bell, they break cars too)

Non essential fixes:
3. The interior door handles are super sticky and have this crap that seems to just come off it. will acetone and elbow grease do the trick or will I need to use something else? Yep, the coating is terrible - Sticky Rubber Deteriorated? Centre Console - This should help

3.5. best way to clean marks off leather seats without damaging it? If it's just grime and dirt then warm water and a soft cloth will get the worst off. Then something like Renapur to condition the leather once it's fully clean. Works for me anyhow.

mods:
4. I already bought a stereo head unit which should come on friday along with the faceplates adapters etc. stereo unit is the sony dsxa410bt but i would like to change out the speakers so I would like your recommendations on which speakers to buy for this stereo head unit. Are they even worth replacing? I can spend £100ish on this but if u think its worth spending more im all ears for suggestions (audio is very important to me and while i cant afford a nice underseat subwoofer for now I plan to get one in the far future so I'd like to keep my options open). For my 147 I upgraded to the factory Bose system as it fits perfectly (about £135 plus a couple of days of your time), but it's old and not that great, but is still better than standard. Plenty of options in the aftermarket but I don't know too much about these. Someone on the forum will know more... Most go aftermarket as it gives you greater options with Bluetooth and all that, there are fascia kits you can get so that the centre console matches - Alfa Romeo 147, GT Dark Grey Car Stereo Fascia Panel Stalk Fitting Kit - like this one...

One thing I do know just to prepare you. The doors on a 147 (front if a 5-door) and a GT have sacrificial covers on the inner door handles as there is a bolt behind them (part number 71775574) - Alfa Romeo 147 Door Handle - Also, take care with the window switch, they are brittle, expensive and there is a hidden screw underneath the door armrest. I learned the hard way... :cautious:


5. Interior and console. I want to paint/vinyl wrap the main console as I don't fancy the colour. Also there's a lot of grey going on in my car so I want to remove the fake leather wrap on the dash and top side of the door panels then replace it with black faux leather vinyl wrap. create some contrasting colours inside ;) I've not done any sort of work like this so I need help on where to get supplies and how to actually carry it out (the latter can be explained later when I actually get there ahaha). I'll need to peel off the old grey stuff how would i do that? If you mean the main leathery portion of the dash then that's quite tough. It's a leather effect material with a layer of foam underneath. Horrible task to remove that. Door components can be re-covered and I'm sure there's a post on this somewhere... have a look around and see what you find. Plastic coating in a new colour is doable - never done it myself but someone on here will have...

id like to do 3, 4 and 5 together so i wont need to remove the door cards on seperate occasions. There's a few examples where owners got very creative with their audio, sod's law I can't find them right now :LOL:

6. I want a stubby aeriel, any suggestions for that? See Partsworld - Short Aerial Mast - Alfa 147, GT & Spider - (y)

7. My car doesnt have a spoiler and it looks well too round for my liking from behind so any recommendations on what one to get? Id like to spend less than 50 for this - No idea, factory fitted ones were fixed through the windscreen so you'd be looked at something in the aftermarket. Sadly mine had a spoiler so I can't help in that regard.

any other mod suggestions would be much appreciated. ooo just remembered my car doesnt have original mats so id like a good suggestion to what mat i should get. Also i found an unplugged wire in the engine bay ive attached a photo, any ideas (hoping its for the horn ahaha)? Partsworld have some mats if you like them - Alfa Romeo 147 Internal Parts & Fittings - Make friends with your genuine parts suppliers, you will be rewarded in the long run - Some links below to help (y):cool:


Thank you everyone!


Hope this helps. Best of luck and enjoy your purchase (y)
thank you for all your suggestions, ill take a crack at the rear seat tomorrow morning see if its an easy fix. before i start calling around for a new car horn i want to make sure i know whats broken exactly, do you know how i could possibly troubleshoot it?

ill be sure to be extra super duper careful with anything brittle (y) as for the main dashboard, i know its going to be a tough task but is there a way to remove all of it from the car so i can wrap it in faux leather in my bedroom then install it after?

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For your horn, check the terminals on the horn. They tend to rust up and the spade terminals from the wiring loom on them no longer make a connection to pass the current.

If it is, it's a simple no cost fix.
 

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No worries. The horn is in the driver's side wheel well, behind the bumper and above the oil cooler. I suppose you could remove it and check the electrical connections - Check this thread too (caveats apply working with electrics (y)) - 147 Horn stopped working - Not an uncommon fault though.

The dash is removable but the difficulty is working with a lot of potentially brittle plastics and fittings, you'd almost be better removing the bare minimum and wrapping in situ...? I'm no upholsterer though so I'm not best placed to suggest an approach :)
 
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For your horn, check the terminals on the horn. They tend to rust up and the spade terminals from the wiring loom on them no longer make a connection to pass the current.

If it is, it's a simple no cost fix.
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For your horn, check the terminals on the horn. They tend to rust up and the spade terminals from the wiring loom on them no longer make a connection to pass the current.

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You beat me to it :D (y)
 
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No worries. The horn is in the driver's side wheel well, behind the bumper and above the oil cooler. I suppose you could remove it and check the electrical connections - Check this thread too (caveats apply working with electrics (y)) - 147 Horn stopped working - Not an uncommon fault though.

The dash is removable but the difficulty is working with a lot of potentially brittle plastics and fittings, you'd almost be better removing the bare minimum and wrapping in situ...? I'm no upholsterer though so I'm not best placed to suggest an approach :)
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i still have no clue what purpose that mystery cable serves though any ideas?
 

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i still have no clue what purpose that mystery cable serves though any ideas?
If you look at the top of the front passenger side suspension turret is there wire that seemingly protrudes from under the bonnet / windscreen scuttle seal? Like this one (not the red circle but the top right of the image - see the black cable near the brake fluid reservoir?)

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If you look at the top of the front passenger side suspension turret is there wire that seemingly protrudes from under the bonnet / windscreen scuttle seal? Like this one (not the red circle but the top right of the image - see the black cable near the brake fluid reservoir?)

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ooo yes i see it, ill check to see if its that (y)
 

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To be honest I don't what it does if it is that...:unsure:
 
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Don't forget about a cambelt replacement if it has not been done for 3 years. That is more important than anything else really.

Always nice to replace a sound system in its entirety. Some factory systems can have odd ratings for different components which are hard to match with aftermarket pieces of audio.

You can test horns by connecting it to a 12v feed and see if it works direct. At least you will know if it is the horn, or another component of the car. Steering wheel, wiring etc.
 

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Don't forget about a cambelt replacement if it has not been done for 3 years. That is more important than anything else really.

Always nice to replace a sound system in its entirety. Some factory systems can have odd ratings for different components which are hard to match with aftermarket pieces of audio.

You can test horns by connecting it to a 12v feed and see if it works direct. At least you will know if it is the horn, or another component of the car. Steering wheel, wiring etc.
Cambelt has been changed in jan
Do u know any guides so I can learn what a 12v feed is and how its used?
 

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Looks like the cable that plugs into the brake fluid level sensor, the clip to hold it is on the side of the reservoir.
Yes it clips under it, I couldn't fit it in though it would go most the way through and I pushed it with all my strength but it wouldn't clip... I'm thinking maybe the rubber seal around it is too thick? Also another weird thing that happened while I was doing this is all the windows were rolled down (key wasn't even in the car) any ideas on that?
 

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Congrats on the purchase!! A few answers below:

HELLO FORUM,

as the title says i just got my first car (alfa romeo 147 1.6 tspark 2005 in a sexy sexy light blue). It has some problems which i wasn't aware of until after the sale (i bought it last saturday). then there are some mods I would like to carry out on it and would like some advice. Below i'll list what needs fixing and what I'd like to mod. All suggestions are much appreciated.

Essential fixes:
1. Rear middle seat belt is stuck, wont extend at all. I tried to pull it but no matter how i do it, it won't budge. Same thing happened with my old 147, the rear seat bases flip forward and reveal where the seal belts are bolted to the chassis. For me the pre-tensioner had simply stuck in a position where it wouldn't move. I unbolted it, which freed it and it returned to normal. Have a go at this first - 17mm bolt if memory serves (don't hold me to that) :D

2. The car horn doesn't work (I knew of this problem before I got it). Hard to come by new at the moment it seems but a specialist will have one - Autolusso – Alfa Romeo Specialists - for example (give them a bell, they break cars too)

Non essential fixes:
3. The interior door handles are super sticky and have this crap that seems to just come off it. will acetone and elbow grease do the trick or will I need to use something else? Yep, the coating is terrible - Sticky Rubber Deteriorated? Centre Console - This should help

3.5. best way to clean marks off leather seats without damaging it? If it's just grime and dirt then warm water and a soft cloth will get the worst off. Then something like Renapur to condition the leather once it's fully clean. Works for me anyhow.

mods:
4. I already bought a stereo head unit which should come on friday along with the faceplates adapters etc. stereo unit is the sony dsxa410bt but i would like to change out the speakers so I would like your recommendations on which speakers to buy for this stereo head unit. Are they even worth replacing? I can spend £100ish on this but if u think its worth spending more im all ears for suggestions (audio is very important to me and while i cant afford a nice underseat subwoofer for now I plan to get one in the far future so I'd like to keep my options open). For my 147 I upgraded to the factory Bose system as it fits perfectly (about £135 plus a couple of days of your time), but it's old and not that great, but is still better than standard. Plenty of options in the aftermarket but I don't know too much about these. Someone on the forum will know more... Most go aftermarket as it gives you greater options with Bluetooth and all that, there are fascia kits you can get so that the centre console matches - Alfa Romeo 147, GT Dark Grey Car Stereo Fascia Panel Stalk Fitting Kit - like this one...

One thing I do know just to prepare you. The doors on a 147 (front if a 5-door) and a GT have sacrificial covers on the inner door handles as there is a bolt behind them (part number 71775574) - Alfa Romeo 147 Door Handle - Also, take care with the window switch, they are brittle, expensive and there is a hidden screw underneath the door armrest. I learned the hard way... :cautious:


5. Interior and console. I want to paint/vinyl wrap the main console as I don't fancy the colour. Also there's a lot of grey going on in my car so I want to remove the fake leather wrap on the dash and top side of the door panels then replace it with black faux leather vinyl wrap. create some contrasting colours inside ;) I've not done any sort of work like this so I need help on where to get supplies and how to actually carry it out (the latter can be explained later when I actually get there ahaha). I'll need to peel off the old grey stuff how would i do that? If you mean the main leathery portion of the dash then that's quite tough. It's a leather effect material with a layer of foam underneath. Horrible task to remove that. Door components can be re-covered and I'm sure there's a post on this somewhere... have a look around and see what you find. Plastic coating in a new colour is doable - never done it myself but someone on here will have...

id like to do 3, 4 and 5 together so i wont need to remove the door cards on seperate occasions. There's a few examples where owners got very creative with their audio, sod's law I can't find them right now :LOL:

6. I want a stubby aeriel, any suggestions for that? See Partsworld - Short Aerial Mast - Alfa 147, GT & Spider - (y)

7. My car doesnt have a spoiler and it looks well too round for my liking from behind so any recommendations on what one to get? Id like to spend less than 50 for this - No idea, factory fitted ones were fixed through the windscreen so you'd be looked at something in the aftermarket. Sadly mine had a spoiler so I can't help in that regard.

any other mod suggestions would be much appreciated. ooo just remembered my car doesnt have original mats so id like a good suggestion to what mat i should get. Also i found an unplugged wire in the engine bay ive attached a photo, any ideas (hoping its for the horn ahaha)? Partsworld have some mats if you like them - Alfa Romeo 147 Internal Parts & Fittings - Make friends with your genuine parts suppliers, you will be rewarded in the long run - Some links below to help (y):cool:


Thank you everyone!


Hope this helps. Best of luck and enjoy your purchase (y)
I took off the rear cloth behind the seat (not fully) and loosened the 17mm bolt there. It didn't do anything, should I completely unbolt it? Are there any risks to doing so that I should be aware of? Also the seat belt got sucked in further and won't come out so now the seats are folded and won't come up 😂 I've attached a photo.
 

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I took off the rear cloth behind the seat (not fully) and loosened the 17mm bolt there. It didn't do anything, should I completely unbolt it? Are there any risks to doing so that I should be aware of? Also the seat belt got sucked in further and won't come out so now the seats are folded and won't come up 😂 I've attached a photo.
Forgot to add pics lol here they are
 

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