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Hey Guys.

i have the 1.6ts, and i'm not sure if they are meant to be this sluggish or if mine has an issue.

like today a guy in a 1.3 Vauxhall, beat me on pull off when i wanted to get to the next intersection quicker. But as soon as i hit about 3000Rpm, i pull back and can feel the kick. I struggle to pull off (up to 300RPM) next to any car ?

is this normal or is there something i can do ? also when i have the air con on, and i pull off, i often get a shudder cause the revs drop so low, but i am giving it a bit of juice?

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mine isn't quick off the lights either but as you've mentioned after 3,000rpm it really starts to pull. I was behind my mates celica 1.8vvti last night and he couldn't put much/if any distance on me either though he has more power and his car weighs less.
 

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the 1.6 twinspark is lacking a bit of lowdown torque but makes up for it by being very willing to rev freely. this is a common problem with small capacity 16v engines but the twinspark seems to be pronounced. see if it is possible to test drive another 1.6 and if you still think yours is a bit down on low down power search the many threads on MAF and Lamda problems. :)
 

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well thing is not many people here in SA have Alfas, so dont know of anyone else who has one to try.
 

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I know it is a bit cheeky, but have a look in the local paper and have a look for one for sale ( private or trade) and arrange a test drive. You wont be the first to use this method to compare your car with another. That is the only free way i can think of doing it. Once you have driven another (or a couple ) of twinspark 1.6 you will then have something to compare. you may find that your car is similar to others but if you still think you have a problem do some research in the tech lounge of this forum and you will find a wealth of info on the 147 and TS engine . MAF and Lambda are the first topics to look for . after driving another 1.6 TS or if you are sure you have a problem you could always go to a good indi and get them to do a diag by hooking it up to their computer but it does not do any harm to have a look through the tech forums so you will have a bit of an idea what the problem might be. not sure what it will cost in SA but over in the uk a diag and new MAF cost me £100 at an indipendent specialist.
good luck anyway :)
 

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lol.. ok that is an idea.. i searched for MAF, but there is nothing on where it is located and how to disconnect it ?
 

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Hi there , there is a really good thread with pictures about MAF cleaning somewhere on here . i have not got time to search and link it for you at the moment as i am cooking dinner and looking after my daughter.

if you open your bonnet you will see a black pipe coming from your airbox on the front right about half way up the pipe is where the MAF is located it is held in place with 2 screws and has a plug in electrical conector . have a search about diagnosing MAF faults and you will find info for disconecting it and determining the results .
good luck:)
 

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ok i found out about it :) will give it a go tomorrow :)

i know the 1.6 is supposed to be a bit sluggish at pull off... but slower than a 1.3 ? :) i can understand against 1.6's maybe
 

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OK disconnected the MAF, and was hard to test, as after 5 minutes, she would just say low oil pressure, when i came to a stand still.. then revs would drop to 0, then had to turn off and on then pull of quickly :)

though now that i reconnected the MAF, it is feeling a lot nippier... did it maybe reconfigure itself ?
 

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Also check the Bit of cloth above the the Air intake on the passenger side of the engine bay. Mine had come loose recently and when i gunned it, the cloth covered the intake making it very sluggish.

In the end i just removed it, and now it's perfect. Being beaten by a 1.3 is a bit dubious though.
 

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What Vauxhall was it? The latest generation stuff is a 1.3 CDTI - a diesel. 70hp, 125 lb/ft. A decent launch in the Vauxhall will have it in the 'zone' grabbing second gear will pull a short distance quickly. As the the car climbs up the speedo the nippy surges reduce leaving you revving up the rev range to that 70 hp peak, and thus losing out to a more powerful petrol.

I don't think they mad a corsa B 1.3? Prior to that is the Nova, in 1.3 SR guise it would be quicker than a 1.6 146, they weigh nothing at all and have a revvy twin choke engine. etc etc.
 
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The 147 is a very heavy car remember...not as heavy as the 159 incarnation, but still heavy given its size and age!
 

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To be fair, a 1.3 in a small car will be pretty nippy up til 30 or 40 mph.

I had a 1.4 Punto Sporting 16V which really was quick off the mark, more so than my GTV, mainly due to the gearing. After all, small cars are designed for nipping through town traffic.
 

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no definately a 1.3 petrol, in SA we never got the 1.3 diesels :) ya but try convince my dad that i need a new car to go faster :p

ok will have a look for the cloth :)
 

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i had a 147 1.6ts and could do most cars off the line, especially a 1.3 corsa
^^I struggle to believe that.^^ Although I believe a 1.6 ts should eat a Corsa for breakfast!

OP I find that there is little below 3000rpm, the engine shows interest around 3.5k, coming on strong at around 4k till around 6.2kish where power dies off a bit.

I'd recommend you get your car checked over though if you feel its a bit sluggish, although I guess it must be tricky to "tell" if your car is actually sluggish or behaving well if you cannot test drive another.

good luck
 

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I am having an experience with Fort Fiesta , its great for deriving. But it rivals for space and versatility with safety kits also.
 

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Indeed :confused:
 
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