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The clutch finally exited stage left last night :rant:

I had been driving back from Dusseldorf airport and had enjoyed a rather spiffy blast on the autobahn with the roof down (110mph+ most of the way, in to a glorious sunset) :cool:

2 miles from home, (driving past a packed cafe) I go to change gear and the pedal doesnt come back, this is accompanied by a bloody loud cacophony of screeching and clonking noises.

1hr later the breakdown guy diagnoses an expired clutch (no **** sherlock :lol: ) and the car is now sitting in the drive.

Its booked in for Thursday, a local (non-specialist) is doing the full 3-piece clutch kit change and the main engine seal for €500 all-in, which is a bloody good price considering my usual guy wanted €850 for it!!

Valeo clutch kit here is €163, which seemed good value.

Not brilliant timing from the car, as I am currently using it to commute whilst I am waiting for my new Volvo XC90 to arrive. Its left us in the lurch somewhat this week..... typical Bella!:vomit:
 

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Not brilliant timing from the car, as I am currently using it to commute whilst I am waiting for my new Volvo XC90 to arrive. Its left us in the lurch somewhat this week..... typical Bella!:vomit:
It's typical Italian - throwing a jealous strop because it knows there's some Swede arriving....
 

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A clutch doesnt wear out in an instance... you should have felt it and see it coming way upfront?
 

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A clutch doesnt wear out in an instance... you should have felt it and see it coming way upfront?
It felt turd on the day I bought it in 2007!

No, but seriously, its never been very good - thats why I am not too upset about it - it just chose a bad time to go pop.

The whole journey home had been fine, in fact I was giving it some serious beans across the country lanes. It went South from one change to the next. Its actually still drivable, I limped it home the last two miles and will need to limp it to the garage on Thursday, its just seriously unhappy with itself.
 

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If the clutch wears out, it will start slipping if you want to accelerate, and it will do that more and more up to a point it will no lounger 'uncouple' the gearbox from the engine. So, it goes up to a point that the car is undrivable because you can't accelerate or switch gears, you should have noticed that since you could no longer drive the car or put it in gear, so my guess is the clutch didn't wear, something just broke in half from old age or something ;)
 

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Sure its not just the master cylinder? Mine went recently and the pedal would stick to the floor until it was teased back up with my foot.
 

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Could be the release bearing, as that has been noisy since 2010 :lol:

It had slipped a few times over the years, but like I say - perfect drive home, go to change gear and game over. :cry:

The recovery guy didnt seem too concerned - he just shrugged his shoulders, said 'yeh the clutch is knackered' and smiled at me stupidly!
 

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2 miles from home, (driving past a packed cafe) I go to change gear and the pedal doesnt come back, this is accompanied by a bloody loud cacophony of screeching and clonking noises.
If it was just the pedal not returning, without the accompanying noises, I'd say it was just the slave cylinder.

Clive
 

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I had the slave replaced back in 2009...... this felt different.

At least I will have the chance to replace the main seal between the g'box and engine at the same time, as that has been leaking since the dawn of time!

It will be interesting to see what it drives like with a new clutch. I can well imagine it will feel like a different car :)
 

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Limped it down to the garage this morning - could only get 3rd and reverse, so that was an interesting trip!! ;)

Definitely seems like the release bearing is gone, and I suspect the clutch plate will be within a mm of its life too.

Hoping to get it back tonight along with a lovely new g'box/engine block seal, which should cure the small oil drip that has plagued me since 2007!
 

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The release bearing tends to wear a groove around the tips of the clutch release plate fingers. When the groove wears through the fingers, the ends fall off (usually one or two) and then there's nothing stopping the release plate from moving off its locating hubs, forwards into the bell housing. It has a plastic body so it will slip and get mashed up a bit.. but it shouldn't damage anything that doesn't come with a new clutch kit.


Once it's "loose" and half wedged into the hole between the remaining release plate fingers.. there's nothing pressing against the release arm, which is why the pedal is dead.

The clutch must have been "heavy" for a very long time... so short of sending you a telegram, it couldn't have done much more to let you know it was on the way out.. ;)

Be a good lad and change the slave at the same time all that lot is apart. Saves doing it ever again. :thumbs:


Ralf S.
 

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Hi!

The garage called earlier and the failure mode is exactly as you have described!

The car has had a poor clutch since I bought it in 2007, the release bearing has been noisy since at least 2009!

I knew it was on its way out, thats why I am not holding it against it! They have also discovered a leak on the sump, so are now fixing that whilst they are in there - an extra €100 or so, but worth it I suppose.

Should now get the car back tomorrow lunch time - really looking forward to giving it a drive and seeing what the difference is :)
 

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Off to pick it up now.

Lets see how much of a wallet raping this will be!
 

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Ho-leeee crap!

Its like driving a new car!!

Unbelievable difference.

Total cost: €698, thats including the extra work re-sealing the sump etc.

They were very fair about it, the original price was budgeted on 5.6hrs work........... it took them 15 hrs!

Just at labour costs that should = €720
 
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