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Seriously thinking of Getting a GTV 3.0ltr (would really like the cup version) - It's hard to decide just how reliable the 3.0 V6 6 speed GTV will be - it'll be for everyday use, don't do many miles............
Im currently running a Subaru WRX Type r Sti (jap import) so ins and fuel not a problem - scooby is a bit high on mechanicals and general performance parts and repair bills......
What's your GTV 3.0ltr experiences - does anyone have any views on the cup - strengths and weaknesses - just how low is the front splitter - is it as bad as people say....
I'm currently in sponge mode and would love to read some owners storys : read a few links but not too in depth
Thanks for the help lady's n gents......
Ive had a wide range of cars and am now at that age when I want style comfort and a bit of oomph - always admired ****** - but had some experience with early 80's alfasud - dissolving - are they better - they certainly look it.....
 

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Seen some Cups with smashed front splitters, so guess they're low.

A wrong'un will bleed you dry, a good one will still require quite expensive servicing. With cambelt changes, wishbones, some dentmaster work, exhaust, brakes etc, my usual service bill is around £1k, and that's for – as the specialist told me – one of the best condition GTVs he works on...

So budget £1k for servicing a year, some years will be better than others, maybe some worse? Do lots of research, see plenty, get to a meet or two as you'll be able to check out what cherished cars ought to look like, then search out one that's been very well maintained.
 

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£1000 seems quite high.

Running costs can be quite high... Expect to get through a set of front tyres a year and budget about £300 for a non-cambelt service so about £500 p.a.

Mechanically air flow meters, thermostats, suspension are common points of failure.
 

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Am I right in thinking that ownership doesn't sound too scary then - Ive just pumped a quick +£2000 in 3 months on my scoob - oils,fluids,belts, plus a little rolling road job with a new downpipe......
Did'nt dare use it - in case I get it dirty and now Ive had a bump in it :cry: :cry: so I'm well sick!!!!!!!!!
Didn't mind keeping the car clean / serviced and happy - but what I do object to is being "worried" about using it - in case it goes bang, in case it makes a funny noise, it takes the pleasure out of owning your "dream car" .
I'm not a red rev band monster - but it kind of takes the fun out of ownership when youre waiting for the next bang £££££££££££££££.......
Thanks for your reply's.
I'll try and get to a local meet / show to have a look ( - but Ive been an enthusiastic owner and I know how that affects the cars price - I wanted twice the price of my last "had since new low milage car" than I got for it cause the value I put on it did not reflect the market - It's not good to under value another members car to the actual current market value V the what's it worth to me price - if you know what I mean :eek: :eek:
Still any help and guidance thankfully recieved - when I buy one - I want it to be the car that I can use as an example of reliability and enjoyment.......
Wow don't I rattle on :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
 

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The Cup splitter is reasonably low, but not too much of a problem. However, for me it's an issue as the entrance to my garage is on an incline and I always scrape it going in or out. Just driving around is fine though, just go slow over those speed bumps.

I use mine as a daily driver, but don't do many miles at all. I don't redline it all the time, but I do give it a thrash every now and then.

I've spent a grand on her since November, but now she's mechanically sound, and all that's left to do is a bit of cosmetic work.

The first couple of months are a bit odd as you'll love the car but every smell you smell and sound you hear will make you paranoid that the car's about to explode in a ball of flame... then you realise it's not your car at all and get on with the brilliant driving experience.

Go and see a lot of cars so you know what you're up against before you buy. Definitely try and get to a meet. If you're in London come to the Ace Cafe Italian night on the second Thursday of every month.
 

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Didn't mind keeping the car clean / serviced and happy - but what I do object to is being "worried" about using it - in case it goes bang, in case it makes a funny noise, it takes the pleasure out of owning your "dream car" .
I'm not a red rev band monster - but it kind of takes the fun out of ownership when youre waiting for the next bang £££££££££££££££.......
Unlucky on pranging your car. I'm a bit retentive about my car, I always want it looking tip top. I don't abuse it, just use it properly, and (when on autobahns) I'll happily sit at 100 for long stretches, but I've never worried about using it incase this or that goes, not at all.

In general Alfas can't take neglect without it showing, so have a close look at ones you see. Whereas German cars can be treated roughly and after a valet will still look good, Alfa interiors will show what sort of life they've had. 3.0 engine is a solid unit, been around for years in one form or another, and seems to be good for 150k+ miles.
 

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Thanks - I'll remember the interior thing - cause inside is just as important to me as outside - cant stand getting into a faggy environment with a wheely bin interior !!!!!! Why do people do it - :tut: :tut:

Cheers jimmer - London's a bit far I'm up North - Cleveland (TS14) Just waiting to be raped and pillaged by the insurance company so any time now :cry: :cry: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: in the next year - I should be ringing bells and hunting - Going to try and do it right this time and not rush in - hence my apprentice period on here....
What's the most common (biggest) worry with the Cup version mate - and would a cup styled V6 (Wheels - rear wing / spoiler and vents- Is that the noticable parts) be just as good (obviously not as rare as an original but the performance will be the same :confused: :confused: and as an introduction and the fact they are available may be a good second choice for me if theres no cups out there when I make my move :) :) :)
Thanks again for advice please keep it comming
 

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I think GTV interiors are quite flimsy, you can tell plenty from the state of them.

There's no extra concern regarding Cups, apart from those front splitters that supposedly can't be bought new any more. Need some clarification on that. One Cup near me had a standard splitter on it – I presume because the real part wasn't available – and it looked really bad, very wrong. One guy in Australia has made up some fibre glass replica parts, so that's an option. Don't know if the side skirts are still available brand new.

You'd need splitter, spoiler, side skirts and wings, plus 17" Teledial wheels which are in a slightly darker shade on Cups than standard ones. At the back they just say 'GTV Cup' too, and internally the seats differ plus there's a numbered plaque. I actually think silver cars look best with the Cup kit, but of course real Cups only ever came in red... not so keen on them myself, but the silver one in this thread looks stunning I think:

SportsAlfa.com :: View topic - An old video of mine

Just noticed it doesn't have the Cup wings, maybe that's why I like the look of it as normally I find the Cups too OTT?

See here for replicas:
SportsAlfa.com :: View topic - My Zender spoiler and skirts arrived today...

SportsAlfa.com :: View topic - Zender Style fibreglass spoiler and skirts for sale

By the time you buy the parts and spray them, you may as well just buy a decent Cup as it may be the cheaper option.
 

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yeah agreed - I was recently looking at a silver one on autotrader - (cant attach a link cause I'm at work and censored)
It had the cup body kit on even dowm to the vented front wings - it looked really smart - obviously you cant beat the real thing though ---- Or can you!!!!!!
 

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I hate to admit it, but Cups aren't actually any different to a regular V6 bar the cosmetics.

As previously stated, the Cup has the front splitter, skirts, wings, spoiler, and 17" 'wet-look' teledials on the outside. On the inside it has half-leather seats with larger bolsters (they grip you into the car, not like the regular leather seats where you have to use the steering wheel to hold yourself in the seat), and of course the numbered plaque on the centre console.

The whole thing with the Cup is the kudos that comes with the fact they're exclusive. There are only 155 in the UK, and although there are technically another 70 I think on the continent, the euro-cups are turbos and come in a multitude of colours. So the UK one is super exclusive :)

You're right to hang about to find the right car. I spent six months on this forum looking for the right car and I was more than happy with the result.
 

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Thanks jimmer :thumbs: :thumbs: - guess theres nothing like owning the real thing eh!!!!;) ;) ;)
What would you expect to pay (In the Nowaday's climate :rant: :rant: - I have sticky plasters for the open wound should you need em mate) I mean for a good un - Ive thought between £5000 and £7000 pending on history etc) would I be far wrong :confused: :)
 

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I think you're about right. I've seen Cups advertised from £5000 all the way up to £7995, depending on work that's been done to it.

I think now's the right time to buy one as people are panicking a little over the new VED regs. In a few months things will settle down a bit and stabilise.

As far as I understand it, the new VED regs aren't even 100% coming into force, at least the retrospect tax, so we could still get off scott free. Mind you, if you can find an older Cup (pre-march 2001) then you would be ok anyway.
 
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