Same as the UK, I find them fine too, break away a bit earlier in greasy conditions, but more progressively than the Pirellis and they are a bit quieter.

 

Do a search, there's a few threads comparing them. I found them decent, workaday tyres and their wear is far superior to Pirelli and Conti. My fronts will be changed over the holiday period and are at 23k whereas the other two were gone at 14k and 16k respectively - factor that into the price too and the Acceleras are a bigger bargain.

I'm slightly worried about noticeably lower grip in poor conditions (but I'm not skating all over the place either) now they are almost on the wear indicators but, it has to be said, the premium brands were equally poor and probably noisier when in the same state.

 

Jim, do you mean rain?

The Accelera's definitely outperform the Pirelli in the snow, I believe anything would, as the Pirelli has no lateral grooves in the tread pattern.

I dont think I would trust the Accelera on the autobahn's though, as I dont know if I trust their QA from what a tyre fitter told me, they arent consistent.

 

Yes, but only at my normal level of concern when a tyre is worn. Two weeks ago I drove up to Scotland and it started snowing heavily enough for it to go down to one lane on the M74. Worried about the marginal state of my tyres, I turned off around Moffat and had to back track a mile or so to the opposite slip road. I was really worried in the conditions but, tbh, when I pulled off the M74 it was still driving fine and gripping far better than I expected. I agree the Pirellis were poor in similar conditions - the Accelaras are certainly better in that respect.

 

Acceleras are fine ... a lot of people keep rambling about better grip from continentals and pirelli, but the bottom line is .... if your pushing acceleras hard enough to loose grip and are testing the limits in snowy and icy conditions .... the public highways not the place for you ... your being a dick and putting others lives at risk !

Sounds a bit redtape and jobsworthy i know ..... but its true !

 

Agreed, but what about in the wet?

 

That test wasnt on th PHI - its a very good tyre, been using them for 12months no problem whatsover.

alfa dealers are supplying them now....tells me all i need to know

 

Alfa dealers supply DPF filters too, what does that tell you? Or do the dealer's opinions only matter when it's something you agree with?

 

Do you mean A.L.P.H.A ?

 

That'll be the one

Did you know they are a far better tyre than Goodyear/Continental/Pirelli etc.. They even make you more attractive to women and more likely to win the lottery!
The only reason that Ferrari dont fit them as standard is purely down to marketing, however Accelera will be preferred tyre supplier to F1 next year you know?....

 

It literally amazes me that people buy these tyres. If i couldn't afford decent tyres i would be filling out a SORN form.

 

Or getting a different car ?

 

Got acceleras all round on the Brera, had them for over 12 months and done 6k miles..no issues whatsoever.

 

Got them on my 159ti no problems either.

 

Dealer had just fitted 4 new acceleras to my Brera when I picked it up. No problems after 20k miles now got Pzero's on.

 

Shush - real world experience not welcome on here :tut:

 

"Accelera PHI Tyres" - a thread title pretty much gauranteed to start an argument

I haven't tried them, and don't wish to take sides, but it seems that the accelera tyres have a harder rubber compound, as evidenced by the slower wear rates, and nominally slightly less grip on the limit. I wonder if these tyres 'work' better on the 159 than on other cars, as the extra weight (especially over the front axle) helps to maintain tyre temperature?

(dons flame helmet and heads for the nearest foxhole...)

 

MikeyW

???????:lol::lol::lol::lol::cheese::cheese::cheese::cheese::lol::lol::lol::lol:???????

Ahh, I really have upset you haven't I? or is it a culmination of your life frustrations?

You've obviously selectively read this and other threads on this subject... I hope the air isn't too thin up there on your soap box.

HO HO HO, Merry Christmas.

 

just remember folks - this is the internet. that mystical land where everybody will only buy the finest continental tyres, change them the minute they drop below 4mm tread, only use the finest motor oils known to mankind, change their oil every 200 miles, and only ever wash their car using the 2 bucket method with autoglym's most expensive car wankwax, having spent the previous 12 days claying their beauty to perfection. and all on a brand new car they only paid £5,000 for at a main dealer because they're such a consummate negotiator

meanwhile, back in the real world where people actually tell the truth... :lol:


i buy part worns (shock, horror) and d'you know what? i couldn't care less what the car snobs think. amazingly i'm still alive and i've saved bags of cash

 

just remember folks - this is the internet. that mystical land where everybody will only buy the finest continental tyres, change them the minute they drop below 4mm tread, only use the finest motor oils known to mankind, change their oil every 200 miles, and only ever wash their car using the 2 bucket method with autoglym's most expensive car wankwax, having spent the previous 12 days claying their beauty to perfection. and all on a brand new car they only paid £5,000 for at a main dealer because they're such a consummate negotiator

meanwhile, back in the real world where people actually tell the truth... :lol:

:thumbs::cheese::cheese::cheese: That made oi larf!

 

haha glad to be of service, sir jim :lol:

noticed the part-worns bit didn't make you larf though tyrebase in bury - little backstreet place does 18" continentals/michelins/dunlops etc with 5-6mm left £45 fitted :thumbs:

 

Everytime someone buys a secondhand car thay buy 4/5 part worns but don't usually have the luxury of taking them off, inspecting then inside and out before thay put them back on and re balance them!

 

it's those nuns you need to watch out for - that'd never happen if you'd clayed your pirellis with selenia racing oil rubbed on with the softened ballskin of a live dodo


tyrebase - james street. magic :thumbs:

 

it's those nuns you need to watch out for - that'd never happen if you'd clayed your pirellis with selenia racing oil rubbed on with the softened ballskin of a live dodo
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the nuns said those sort of tyres have a habit of doing that.
the dodo became extinct, albeit with a smile on its face.

i now have 4 accelera on the brera mainly due to the pirellis going from £200 a corner to £350 although kwik fit were doing a cracking deal recently on them.
just had one back end wobble but so many variables so cannot point the finger of blame.

 

Yes, I got my Pzero's from Kwikfit for £244 ea. no one can do them cheaper.

 

I fitted 17 inch Acceleras on the rear of my 159 about 5k miles ago replacing the Michelin Premacy's that were on her when I picked her up. I have used them before on other cars and at £79 a piece they are spot on. No more noticeable road noise, no less grip, and wearing well. Obviously if cost was no object, i'd be spending £300 a corner, but it is, so i'm not!
And all this 'slightly less grip at the limit' is frankly BS. If you are pushing your car to the limit and beyond on public roads, then you really do need to be having a word with yourself. But then again if that's you, then the girls in the local McDonalds car park are probably very impressed.

 

The only 'On The Limit' performance that really matters is the ability to slam on the anchors and get stopped before you hit a small child that has run out onto the road in front of you.

If you are interested in track day performance then fair enough, but finding the 'on the limit' cornering performance on a public road is - for me - irrelevant and irresponsible.

Please note I'm not having a dig at Acceleras or part worn tyres here. For the Acceleras the only concrete evidence will be back-to-back tests on an Alfa 159 - tests on other cars are irrelevant as different cars get different amounts of performance/wear from their tyres. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence of the Acceleras being fine on the 159. I'll have to try them myself and make my own mind up.

As for part worn tyres - perfectly sensible. I suspect I'll struggle to go find four tyres of the same type with roughly the same wear (required for Q4). What matters is not the condition in which they go on the car, it's the condition you let them wear down to. Running tyres down to the canvas is irresponsible regardless of whether you started with 4.5mm of tread, or 9mm of tread.

 

remember also that a set of acceleras with 6-7mm of tread left will probably massively outperform a set of fancy pirellis with only a couple of mil left

 

And at the price of the Acceleras you can afford to replace them when they get to 4mm or so and still be quids in over the Pirellis. Plus, given the extended life the Acceleras would surely have more tread and therefore more grip for more of the time over the Pirellis. It's only when they are both new or nearly new that the Pirellis would be better. Just a thought. We have Pirellis on the front and Continentals on the rear at the moment. I've had bad experience of "budget" tyres before (and I mean really cheap ones). Wouldn't want to experience wet performance like that again. However, considering the comments from users and the price of the premium tyres (currently north of £300!) I think they're worth a try. If they're rubbish i'll bin them immediately and stump up the extra for the premium brands. Don't need any yet but will report back as and when.

 

I came into work today in the pi*sing down rain, and hell I even had to brake sharply at a set of lights when they turned to red and managed to stop well before the 'line'. I survived going around wet bends doing the speed limit. And all the while I had Acceleras on my car. There's a moral to this story somewhere.

 

Yeah - ignore the bull

OK they obviously don't marry well with the RWD BMW's - fair enough but find me a bad Alfa review....you wont...even RX8 & 350Z owners happy with them....

Accelera PHI | the Accelera PHI reviewed and rated | the online tyre guide

 

I wonder has anyone fitted part worn Acceleras:lol:

 

Yes, anyone buying a used car with them fitted...

 

I have to say I am not over keen on them.
I have them on the Brera, for cheap tyres they are ok, but that is all they are, cheap tyres.
In the wet they can be twitchy.
I also drove a 159 TBi for a couple of weeks that had them on, it wasn't great either. If I could justify the price of the conti's I would have them back on the Brera.

Oh and thats no 'bull' that is just my honest opinion as an Alfa owner


EDIT - just to add, they are ok though if you drive sensibly. I realised this post sounded totally negative and I don't mean it to. You can't beat the price and they performed better than I expected for the price. But if Conti's were the same price I would have them back on, not because I am a brand snob but because I thought they preformed better.

 

Thanks Alfa - sorry that Bull comment wasn't aimed at people like you, it was intended for those who can somehow form an opinion on these tyres having never driven a car using them.

After a year i've finally found a way to make mine twitch.

In the wet if you are pulling out of a junction that is on an incline to join a hill and you full lock the wheel in the direction of the hill. If i floor it with the 190bhp i can get a brief wheel spin before it grips again.

Tomorrow i'm heading straight to quick fit to have them removed

 

Just to add, I drove my wife's 2.0Jtdm in the wet yesterday. Trying to pull away quickly all I got was wheel spin in 1st gear every time (traction control did nothing in 1st gear).
That's with Pirelli's on the front with plenty of tread on. The Acceleras can't be worse than that as I had no traction whatsoever.

 

Just as well you weren't pulling out of a junction with a speeding lorry coming towards you - still you'd be able to stop quicker at 70 thankfully

 

+1 :thumbs:

 

Just wanted to say whether your rubber is soft, hard, grippy, slippy, overrated, underrated, expensive or cheap.....who cares, let's enjoy the festive period and forget about our compound conundrum for a few days :thumbs:

All the best guys.

 

Cheers Mikey, Have a great holiday!