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Hi all,

I'm about to buy (already left £250 deposit) an Alfa 147 1.6 TS Lusso, 2005, 51000 miles, for £2.500

It looks to me very good, the retailer did MOT it today and it got following advisory items:

1 (all) Body has Sllght corrosion [6.l.B.2]
2 Front (X 2) brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened [3.5.1i]
3 Rear (X 2) Coil spring corroded [2.4.C.1b]
4 Exhaust back box casing corroded

Is this normal for a car of that age? Is it anything very expensive to replace or fix? I had an old Ka (famous to be prone to rust) and it costed me £400 for rust problems that was eating the bottom.

On this one I noticed some small rust bubbles also around the bolts on the alloy wheels. I don't want to loose the deposit and I like the car a lot (mint state outside and inside), but I'm slightly worried.
Also...I live in Norwich (UK), anyone knows a good garage here able to work on an Alfa without going to the official Alfa dealer/service that is going to be much more expensive?


Please advice, it would be much appreciated, I should take the car tomorrow so I need to quickly have an idea!
 

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1 (all) Body has Sllght corrosion [6.l.B.2] Just have to live with that
2 Front (X 2) brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened [3.5.1i] New discs and Pads £100
3 Rear (X 2) Coil spring corroded [2.4.C.1b] New Coil Springs £80 + Labour to fit
4 Exhaust back box casing corroded - Buy a second hand one for about £30 and fit yourself.

Not expensive fixes but unusual I'd say on a 2005 car.
My car has the original springs / Shocks and even exhaust from 2001 and does not have any corrosion thats worth noting on the MOT.

The body corrosion is the one i'd keep an eye on. Or find out exactly wwhat that entails as it could write the car off in a couple of years if its around key points. Or at least its not really a DIY fix unless you can weld.
 
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As you can imagine I'm not really sure what to do...most of all about how much would be to have the body rust treated..I saw something like this

Autolusso - Alfa Romeo Specialist | Waxoyl Rust Treatment

Would that be what I need? How can I find more about it?

Should I loose the deposit I left (250) or after fitting these minor things would be a good one? I'd like to know if those things could lead to some other later surprises..
 

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Yes the Waxoil treatment is preventative maintenace. But i don't know what body rust we are talking about here.
Could you not ask the dealer to fix those problems before giving it you.
 
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Yes I'm trying, I already asked them to fix the springs/discs/exhaust or give me an equal discount to fix them myself.

About the body rust obviously is harder, I just have no idea how expensive it could be in the worse case. The MOT advise say slight corrosion, and the car is not here in Norwich where I live so I'm going to be there tomorrow to take it (and pay it) or not.

For the price is good, alloy wheels rust is not a big problem and I know I can have someone refurbish them, but I'm more worried about this all body corrosion problem.

The Waxoil treatment is preventive and it's cheap, but what could cost in a worse case where I need some more than preventive?
 

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A £2500 147 should have NO body corrosion.

Discs are nothing to worry about, sounds like lack of use. They will probably clean up with use but new discs is not a major or expensive job.

A little strange about the springs but again it depends how bad they are. Most springs after several years will look rust rather than painted but it shouldn't be bad.

I wouldn't worry about the exhaust.
 
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Spider95 thanks for your suggestions.

I live in Norwich, so it's about 40 miles from seaside, don't know where the car was before (I'm buying it from Peterborough, so not really near the sea at the moment).

From what I saw online, 2.5k seem quite good, for a dealer car with a 15 months nationwide warranty (Autogroup). And the status of external body and internals is really mint.

I'm really confused and in doubt about this corrosion on body, and I don't know how to check. I'm obviously ok to take it and spend £80 or £100 to do this Waxoil treatment, but I have no idea how to know if it's a more serious problem. Is MOT 'slight corrosion' a real evaluation of a real 'slight' problem?
 
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Mitch916 what could be the reason for this corrosion on bottom and on alloy wheels around bolts (some small bulbs under the paint)?

I'm happy to take care of it, but I don't want to buy a car that I trash or needs £1000 to be fixed for 'slight rust'...
 

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147's don't rust anywhere near as much as 156's do so structural rust (if thats what it is) is very rare. Only the floorpan wasn't galvanised.
Rusty back boxes are fine as long as they are not actually leaking. Wire brush the spring and give it a coat of paint. Don't worry about the wheels - £60 a corner to refurb but its only cosmetic.
New pads and disks all round for just over £100 if you can do it yourself.

Many MOT stations pick up the slightest advisory just to cover themselves, present the car agin next year with no work done and they probably won't pick them up again. Mine has had the same rusty back box on now for five years since its first and only advisory!
 
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Do anyone knows how I can have the bottom of the car checked before agreeing to pay for the car?

If they can offer me the springs/discs/exhaust repaired, I don't know if making this 'slight rust' a deal breaker and eventually how to check it. Can any garage do it or must be a bodywork place?

Sorry for all questions, I live in England only since 4 years (original from Italy) and I need urgently a car as my old one broke badly and suddenly. It takes for me 1.5hr by train to reach the dealer, I already arranged insurance and breakdown etc. for the car to be picked up tomorrow, and now I'm in the middle of a crisis..
 

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Get the AA/RAC to do an inspection of the car? Ask them to check the car over for signs of rust. They will give you a detailed report breakdown
 

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I think you need to find out exactly what the body corrosion is. Floor pan rust caught early is very easy to deal with. Autolusso fur example will do the whole floor pan for less than £100.

Rusty panels however are a great deal harder and more expensive to sort even at an early stage.

Find out what the rust issue actually is.
 

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What Mitch said re the corrosion, that will be the killer.
Don't buy a car that you are not really happy about just becasue you feel you have run out of time. I've made that mistake and ended up paying for it. There is no shortage of decent 147's around at good money right now.
I think you'd have a good case for getting your deposit back as well given the issues that the car might have.
 
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Ok so the best solution would be to have springs/discs/exhaust fixed, and then investigate more about the rust before buying.

Anyone knows any place I can book today for a visit tomorrow around Peterborough? AA will cost another £200 (I already asked) just to have it checked and it would be in 3 days.
 
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I had a couple of phone calls, the car comes as well with 15 months warranty and for the age/miles is good price.

I'll probably take it and I'll have it checked immediately here in Norwich to understand the amount of work to be done about this rust, if very bad (they say it's not) I'm always protected I think, I'm not buying from a private but from a trader.

Anyone knows good garage here in Norwich, possibly also for future servicing of an Alfa?
 
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