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looking at doing the cambelts on my 1993 24v 164 anyone had any luck finding cambelt kits for the car, i haven't tried local autofactors yet but seeings as they struggled with brake pads thinking might not be very good source

anyone know any good parts places or have any tips for doing the belts i have the cam locking tools
 

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The following have always been very helpfull in recent years.

Alfashop | Alfa Romeo Parts | Alfa Servicing Norwich - Phil
Bertelsbeck Automotive

and to do it properly, this will help ....
V6 164 Engine - 24 Valve Busso Aftermarket Tools :: TotallyAlfa

For a walk-through along with templates on timing, tensioners etc do a search on Alfa BB where Steve will have provided a guide. Gibot on this forum has recently completed a rebuild so may be able to give you some advice on the 24v. But dont delay getting them changed if in any doubt on age/mileage of tensioners or belts.
 

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Hi bit of a daunting job but not that bad when you get down to it.
The worst bit I find is removing the cambelt cover there is a really awkward nut/bolt/spacer on the left hand side as you look at the cam belt .
This is a bit fiddly as it is right up against the inner chassis rail.

You will be really lucky to find the cam belt tensioner as it was specific to the 164 24v.
The only one I have found is at Alfa Parts | Alfissimo International | but they want $320 yes thats what I thought.:wow:

The tension rollers are available from alfaworkshop as they are the same as the other 24v v6 engines. They are not available from most other places anymore I don't know why.They do come up on ebay from time to time.

The belts are easy enough to get but if you have a problem let me know and I can get the aux and cambelt.
The aux tensioner is available. not in great supply though. Keep an eye out on ebay it will probably be a dayco one.

If you have any questions let me know. You must do the water pump also as you need to remove the belt etc..to get at 2 of the bolts that hold it in.

Pm me if you need and I will give you a number in case you get stuck.
I do have a set of cam locks too.

As for the cambelt tensioner they are very reliable. to test it is ok , once its off the car place the piston end on a wooden bench or table and see if you can depress it if it goes in but takes a lot of force it is ok as long as it comes straight back out. if not it is suspect.
 

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Oh yeah I spoke to you on the 164 register the other day.

I take it you are the one that lives in the traffic bottle neck with the castle :lol: :cheese:
 

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I'll keep an eye on this thread too as I'll soon be having a go at the belts and tensioners on my Q4. I've done this job on a 12V a couple of times but never a 24V - it seems far more complex. But what better way to learn than to give it a go...

I've no idea when they were last done, due to having no history for the car, so I don't want to take any chances. The biggest problem seems to be finding all the right parts, but so far I've got most of what I need. Incidentally I placed an order earlier today for various tools from Totally Alfa - it wasn't cheap but for my first attempt I'd rather do it properly!
 

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yeah gonna be bit of a job but im up for the challenge am lucky enough to have an experienced alfa mechanic to help that worked on these cars in period so should be ok but will be doing my homework anyhow i done belts before but mainly zetecs in racing cars :rolleyes:
tried the autofactors today i dont even think he knew had ever heard of a 164 and said they have nothing listed (useless)
will let you know how i get on getting a bit worried as the belts sposed to be every 72,000 or 6 years the cars only done 40,000 since belts done but was 7,8 years ago so hoping it was a half decent belt on it it still looks in good condition but i know can be deceiving
thanks for all your help and yeah there is a castle and a bottleneck!!

thanks again guys ill let you know how i get on getting hold of bits and good luck with your Q4 sounds like car is the dogs i saw your thread on other forum
 

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A bit of experienced assistance can't hurt, I hope it all goes well for you. Can't say I'm too surprised that the motorfactors couldn't help you, even some specialist Alfa parts places hold very little stock for 164s. Alfissimo International has a great stock of 164 parts, the only issue being they're located in the US :) And yes, it's definitely a good idea to change your belts in that case!

If you haven't seen it already the 'manuals' section of the 164 Register website may be of use to you, I've been having a look and it's like a goldmine for Q4 info! A lot of it is electrical diagrams but there are some service/overhaul manuals too that should help you out. Either that or Alfisto Steve on the alfaBB (as already mentioned above) who is a 164 tech guru, his stuff is very helpful.

Good luck with the work anyway :thumbs: Glad you like my Q4 too...I can't wait to get it running!
 

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hi.
A couple of years ago when the 24v tensioner was getting very scarce Autolusso had it in mind to have a batch of a 1000 specially made.I don't know if in fact they went through with it.
 

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got belt, bearings and waterpump for 150 quid (excluding the tensioner pulley which still trying to find) alfissimo.com wanted £400 for their kit (think they gone bit mad with the markup)
all ebay shop bits cant recommend yoyopart.com enough for cross referencing parts numbers all of which i nicked off the alfissimo website got a Gates belt, genuine alfa bearings and a Bugatti waterpump.
will let you know how i get on just got to get hold of a tensioner pulley and wait for stuff to arrive!
 

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Hi Tom,
I got mine as part of a belt kit - includes belt, tensioner pulley/bearing and the two idler bearings, I paid around £180 which I didn't think was too bad really. After a bit of searching on the web you have a few options:

Bertelsbeck automotive (alfa parts specialist) Bertelsbeck Automotive - OE. 60580235/60810660 BELT TENSIONER OE. 60580235/60810660 BELT TENSIONER 242 60580235

Alfissimo International https://www.alfissimo.com/index.php?productID=64

AFL Ricambi (I got my belt kit from them via eBay, good service) Spannrolle Alfa 164 3,0 V6 24V, 109,00 €, Autoersatzteile für A

HTH :thumbs:
 
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